Criticising someone for trying to make the world a better place makes you the most pathetic loser on the face of the planet.
I peeped their Twitter account and they’re absolutely a trash human being.
Have made a few searches on Greta Thunberg and her parents and they are not “rich”. They are better off than average in Sweden but calling them rich is a bit of a stretch.
Is this the classic misdirection where anyone who isn’t poor is classified as rich so you can incite them against policies that would target “the rich”, when they’re actually two or three orders of magnitude away from being (negatively) affected by those policies?
Using the phrase “useless activism” says everything we need to know about the poster.
How can you take her seriously when she doesn’t even generate value for her capitalist overlords?
Here’s the thing; if you remove the word “useless” from that statement, I have no issue with it (other than it being factually inaccurate that Greta’s parents are “rich”).
Yes, it would be the definition of privilege to be well off enough that you can spend your life focused on activism. And that’s OK.
Having privilege is not a moral judgment. You’re not a bad person because of it. It’s just a fact of life. What’s important is to understand your privileges. If she was going around moralizing at other people for not spending all their life on activism even though they’ve got bills to pay and kids to feed, that would be a shitty thing to do. But as the reply in the OP says, recognizing your privileges and using them to help those who are not fortunate in the same ways is exactly the behaviour we want to see more of, from everyone. That can be as simple as being the guy in the meeting who says “Hold on, I really want to hear what Sandra has to say” because you know she’s being talked over. It can be a white person filming the cop as they arrest a black kid, because you know that your skin colour affords you a level of safety in that situation. You use the advantages you’re given to help others.
I saved this comment that @JoMiran@lemmy.ml made (different post, same community) when I scrolled by it a few weeks ago.
This is a Lemmy gold worthy comment (imo), but also want to make sure they get credit:
I mean, yeah. That is a privilege. She is privileged to be able to be an activist.
People acting like “privilege” is some awful phrase is why MAGA types go out of their way to deny their privilege.
Doing what greta has done was never an option for me. But things I’ve done were never options for other people. And that doesn’t make either of us bad people. Just lucky.
If you have the privilege to do whatever you want, hopefully “whatever you want” is positive and not punching down
People acting like “privilege” is some awful phrase is why MAGA types go out of their way to deny their privilege.
That’s because maga types are deeply, fundamentally, stupid. They don’t think, they feel. When you say to one “You’re privileged by being white so you don’t get bothered as much by the police” they feel bad, and that’s all. That’s part of why they can hold contradictory positions without any apparent discomfort. The words are contradictory but the feelings are consistent.
When you say to one “You’re privileged by being white so you don’t get bothered as much by the police” they feel bad
no, they feel good. that is exactly how world is supposed to work in their heads. for a short time in history they knew it was not strategic to say that out loud, but that short moment has passed now.
They feel bad towards you saying that.
MAGA is based on American evangelicalism. To this form of Christian, being the perpetual victim is crucial to their belief. Acknowledging privilege makes it hard for them to see themselves as a cosmic victim, so they reject the idea.
Imagine saying that to Batman 😂
That’s actually a thing!
IIRC, the idea is that many of the people Batman beats up are just desperate, and not evil, so instead using all that Bruce Wayne money on healthcare, rehabilitation, housing, and other services that benefit the poor would decrease the amount of crime way more than going around punching people ever would.
As far as I know Bruce has tons of charities and uses a lot of his money to help improve lifes. But gotham is cursed
And for anyone not familiar, Gotham is literally cursed. Like, dark wizards and demons cursed.
Too bad Bruce already does this with his fortunes and has set up so many charities, homeless centers, orphanages, work centers, … He even helped a couple of goons get a job at Wayne enterprise.
It is only because Gotham is literally cursed that it does not work.
So the people who say that really never read any of the comics.
I’m usually absolutely not interested in any superhero and their lore but how is Gotham cursed?
The specifics depend on the writer, but there’s some supernatural force keeping Gotham from improving. The city may have been founded by demon worshipers, Arkham Alylum might have been founded by a serial killer, and there might be chemicals from underground Lazarus Pits leaking into the water supply. It all depends on the continuity and who tells the story. Long story short, Gotham is the kind of fucked up that all the money in the world isn’t going to fix.
I don’t read comics either… but yeah Gotham being “cursed” to be crime ridden no matter what does sound like bit of a dog whistle lol.
Cursed as in occult origins, not cursed as in bad luck
More like, “We know that these are serious issues, and we appreciate that our readers and writers both are intelligent, dedicated, and meticulous. However, we still need a setting where we can tell a story, and a good story is driven by conflict.”
Speaking as a writer, it’s a case where Status Quo Is God, not an overt endorsement of violence against the working class. In fact, Absolute Batman is literally just a dude working construction. He also snaps Nazi arms like twigs.
Just the like the US is just cursed with gun violence and there’s nothing that can be done about it
I can’t begin to tell you how much of a relief it would be to learn that an occult curse is the real reason standard of living in the U.S. has been on such a steep decline since Reagan (and the Heritage Foundation) took office.
What if Reagan was the curse?
Nah, America is cursed because it was built on an ancient Indian burial ground, and they only moved the grave markers while leaving the bodies there.
Bruce spends billions on healthcare, charities, homeless programs, food banks, and endless and countless other things to help
That’s literally the entire point of the Bruce Wayne persona. He’s a rich playboy that gives away endless money for good deeds.
Batman is a fictional character made specifically to glorify rich people. Even the most ‘nice’ or ‘generous’ millionaires+ are leagues and leagues beneath Batman.
Which by the way is not to say we cannot enjoy Batman or any ither fiction. Just pointing out broader context.
This is actually why they had the idea to reinvent the character without wealth. The comics “Absolute Batman” are really good. Bruce grew up as a construction worker. The Joker is a billionaire.
I was a fan of the 60s Batman (no, I’m not that old, I was just introduced to the classics at a young age). Adam West and Burt Ward were my Batman and Robin.
He was a millionaire in the 60s.
Here’s the really funny part. In the 1960s Batman Movie, Julie Newmar plays the Catwoman (she’s one of my favorite Catwomen because of this role, but Eartha Kitt will always hold a special place in my heart.) In this edition, Catwoman decides to go undercover as a journalist for the Moscow Bugle. Her legend for the mission is that she is a Russian Communist, during the height of the USSR’s economic and military threat level against the US.
Bruce Wayne falls madly in love with her. Catwoman, being a consummate espionage artist, snaps the trap and kidnaps Bruce Wayne. Bruce, as Batman, later finds out this woman who stole his heart was one of his sworn enemies. Literally as he’s chasing her, trying to find Miss Kitka, because he thinks she hurt her. Only for her mask to fall off, to find out that he got, well… catfished. Adam West deserved an Academy Award for those tears of shock and grief.
The subtext at the time was that the US was starting to try to repair its bad relationship with the USSR, and push forward with nuclear disarmament. It was a reflection of the betrayal of the first failed nuclear negotiations that were hanging so heavily in the public mind.
Batman has always been complex regarding the role of the rich in politics. Really, it depends entirely on who’s writing the story how that context is approached and how Bruce uses it. It isn’t consistent because the writers have changed as much as the world has. I’m glad to see Absolute Batman subverting the traditional Batman mythos by making him a working class hero and putting the Joker in front of the bank vault this time.
This is the wildest take I’ve seen all day
And if she got a “real” job people would call her a nepo baby. There is no winning with these insane people. Not to mention she doesn’t even come from a rich family.
This. They hate her because they hate her. Not because she doesn’t work.
Calling any kind of activism “useless” is pretty evil in my opinion.
I like the way you think and I wish I could share it, but I’ve met some real shitty activists. The protest outside of planned parenthood type, and honestly useless is about the kindest thing I can say about them.
Zionists hate her because she supports justice for Palestinians rather than staying silent
Star of David and Monarchial Iran flag?
100% a Zionist troll, probably an IDF account.
Some people spend half their life reposting propaganda on social media behind fake profiles for free. She at least owns up to her beliefs.
She might have gotten bombed and tried to end a genocide and this user wants her to work…
This is one I rip on people for choosing to be a drone instead of someone that helps
Christ I’m so disgusted with people scapegoating her with all of their worst-faith notions about political protest and activism. First of all she’s the most benign target of all time to go attack maliciously. Secondly, in their zeal to shit on her, people shit on the entire idea of civil protest and standing up against government and corporations for what you believe in. Even Trump dipshits should have an ounce of respect for that, no matter who you are.
We need to give the Aperger’s type of autistic people the power to rule.
Maybe as some kind of council, because you can still end up with an Elon if you’re not careful.
I disagree mainly for the Elon reasons. We want everyone’s voices in government and excluding anyone’s is a recipe for disaster (yes, I’m one of those crazies that even thinks prisoners should have the right to vote it’s wild right). I think it’s just that ASD voices are among those conspicuously missing from government and that’s something worth working to change.
Prisoners are part of the state. They contribute and they consume. They should definetly have the right to vote.
Yet it’s a common belief that they should lose the right to vote because crimes.
Common belief only in the US of A
Should depend on the kind of crime. Stealing a car doesn’t mean you’re not to be trusted to vote. Killing a public figure does, imo.
Might also have something to do with many of us burgers tending to have a really strong sense of justice. Pointed at right direction that’s a powerful motivator to go against all perceived wrongs, in the autistic lacking self regulation way. Which can be quite extreme
Yeah but perceived wrongs and actual wrongs aren’t necessarily the same. I’ve met plenty of autistic folks who are far more Musk than Thunberg
That’s why I included the “pointed at right direction” lmao. A lot of people are jerks and that applies to all groups
People often equate justice with revenge. They want people to suffer for offences, real or perceived, that they’ve committed. The American so-called criminal justice system is all about revenge. It’s about locking people up and making them suffer awful living conditions as punishment instead of trying to better them.
Speaking as someone with ASD with features typically associated with the former name (we decided as a group that we didn’t like having our mental status named after the Nazi scumbag that tortured us to come up with our diagnosis), I really think that this isn’t necessarily a perfectly good idea.
I appreciate where this is coming from, and the sentiment it represents. I wish I was as badass as Greta Thunberg, but I’m not. A democracy needs every voice. Especially the sane ones.
I mean it wasn’t meant seriously, but I can understand why you might take it that way.
(we decided as a group that we didn’t like having our mental status named after the Nazi scumbag that tortured us to come up with our diagnosis)
I’ll digress from the post a bit here… I can appreciate what you’re saying, but this is a wild distortion of what occurred to reclassify Asperger’s Syndrome as ASDL1. This is not what happened or why it was done, and there is no credible evidence that Hans Asperger himself was a Nazi or that he tortured anyone.
Again, I appreciate where you are coming from. This story, although many people believe it, is not at all correct. But yes, his work to understand and determine the nuances of autism was used by Nazis to determine who would be killed and who wouldn’t. He did cooperate with them, but whether he doomed a group of people or saved another one in that situation is a matter of perspective.
And I personally don’t think we should change the names of the things that might be rooted in darker history, regardless of the actual events, well-understood or not. Not simply for the sake of it (again, that’s not why it was done in this case). That begs us to forget things that need to not be forgotten. Maybe part of why we find ourselvse repeationg our mistakes as humans.
Speaking, of course, as an autistic person myself.
