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FTC won’t do it. This would take legislation.
The apple defense force is in the comments I see
Where?
I don’t need right to repair. Just make sure there are no smartphone monopolies and the. Let the market create products that people want. The fairphone exists. Why arbitrarily forcing a feature that 98% of the proposition does not want? Any anti competitive actions that unnecessarily prevent repair should be stopped.
Yes you do need right to repair. Without it you don’t actually own anything.
That is hyperbole
- this is delusional. The market will not spring forth the best solution for everyone, but the one that is juuuust that bearable for the masses.
- You don‘t value repairability until you need it. You may even prefer the opposite for looks etc.
- You already support what the calling is supposed to achieve: stop anti-competitive actions that prevent repairs. This is a right to repair with some extra steps.
I’ve owned iPhones from the first one. I used to replace batteries all the time on my own. Up until around iPhone 6 when I never needed to do it on my own. The one time I needed to Apple offered the replacement for $29. I now have the 13 which has worked flawlessly except for the battery life which is at 85%. In return I’ve gotten a device that has been rock solid even after multiple drops, I’ve flung it across the room once by accident and it did not skip a beat. Its been dunked in water several times without issue. And apple’s device matching security makes stealing phone, even for parts not worthwhile. All of this is far more valuable to me than being able to replace the battery at a 3rd party shop. For iPhones I do not want repairability vs all the benefits that the current device provides.
You would not have to give up anything of your points, just for having a more easily swappable battery. You can design devices like that, the past shows it.
No device you describe exists by any manufacturer including fairphone. I’ve owned several tanks Nokias. My iPhone 13 easily beat them while being water proof.
This gets me thinking, has anyone done any research on whether Apple’s decision to completely replace devices rather than fixing and returning them and to solder RAM and storage increases e-waste production (regardless of whether the waste is recycled) to the point where any increased reliability can’t justify the increase in waste?
Apple sends devices back to repair depots. They don’t do component level repair at stores anymore.
It is much easier to give a new/refurb device on the spot and then have their depot repair and put that item back into circulation that way.
People here actually think Apple yeets their intake into the trash from every Apple Store are smoking something I’d like to partake in.
This is a US thing due to customer traffic but it still doesn’t work this way. In other countries they do “modular level repairs,” in store i.e Logic Board swaps, Display swaps and other components. Those parts get refurbished and eventually become other parts for repairs. The apple store would never do component level repairs because the turnaround time would be insane. Did this shit for 10 years and people would lose their mind over a 24 hour turnaround time to get their computer back. Our store would turn around over 100 devices a day doing system level repairs I couldn’t imagine how much slower it would be if had everyone running digital microscopes and micro soldering components.
Also apple rarely swaps out devices anymore the only exceptions are headphones, iPads, and watches. Only time devices get swapped out if they’re beyond economical repair or the time to repair won’t make their guidelines due to part constraint or other issues. During my time I would literally rebuild entire Macbooks because they were dunked in water and maybe one component was salvageable from the previous computer.