What I’m saying is that I think killing civilians is wrong

Unless it’s being done by respectable liberal Zionists, of course

It shouldn’t be

Yeah man, communists definitely ring their hands about how we can’t seize assets from billionaires because the government is worse, definitely

Lol, you were literally saying that we can’t raise tax then because they’ll leave, you don’t fucking agree you lying slug, you literally do think those assets are best off being clutched too by oligarchs

Fuck off Nazi

Than taken overseas by fleeing oligarchs? Yes, obviously. What are you doing in this com?

If they harmed civilians then that is also wrong, obviously. Ethnicity has nothing to do with this. I think harming civilians is wrong.

So you agree, during the Holocaust you would have been saying "Both the Nazi occupation of Poland and the Warsaw ghetto uprising are completely wrong! What we need is a new peace process between the Nazis and Jews”

If Hamas wants to try to defeat Israel’s government then that’s one thing, but harming civilians is another thing.

Famously no civilians killed defeating the Nazis, you dishonest Zionist.

I’m saying that I think it’s wrong to harm civilians.

No, you dishonest Zionist, you said that there should be a “new peace process”, ie, defeating the Nazis was good, but Israel should be appeased.

I don’t think that’s true.

Then you’re a historically illiterate moron who has no business talking on the matter. Or, more likely, you’re lying.

Netanyahu’s party is right-wing and the parties in his coalition are far-right.

Every party in the Israeli government is far right wing except for the Palestinian ones, who the opposition were so completely unwilling to work with that they let Netanyahu have control.

It seems there are more progressive politicians in Israel like Yair Golan who apparently supports “a two-state solution” and “ending the occupation of the Palestinian territories”.

You dishonest piece of shit. Yair is a far right ethno fascist who openly endorsed the greater Israel project and supports corralling Palestinians into a handful of Israeli controlled Bantustans and “ending the occupation” by annexing the territories. Be fucking honest, what you want is an Israeli government that has all the same policies as Netanyahu (and all previous governments), but coaches it in mild, centrist platitudes to make it palatable to meek liberal Zionists, again, just like all previous governments. Who do you think is going to still buy this shit? “Oh it’s just Netanyahu, most of the Kennesset wants a two state solution, (don’t ask why every Israeli government in history has expanded settlements and activity sabotaged the possibility of a Palestinian state).”

The only people still talking about a “two state solution” are people who have not done a shred of reading on the subject (and thus shouldn’t be giving their opinions) and people who know damn well that the possibility of a two state solution is stone dead at Israel’s hand, and thus they can feign support for it without having to worry about it getting in the way of what they actually want; the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

I don’t support apartheid, or occupation, or ethnic cleansing

Yes you do, in every way that actually matters.

What I’m saying is that I hope everyone in the Israel/Palestine area can live in peace

“I’m just saying I hope everyone in Rhodesia can live in peace!”

But yes Israel’s actions are obviously preventing this.

And you oppose stopping them. Once again, your position is “I support Israel and oppose its enemies, but it would be nice if it chose to be less brutal.”

Maybe I would have if that uprising had indiscriminately shot at German civilians, who may have been people who didn’t support the Nazis at all.

The Polish resistance absolutely killed civilians, and Hamas absolutely didn’t “indiscriminately” shoot civilians. You’re once again making it extremely obvious that you’re a Zionist being dishonest, otherwise you wouldn’t be reproducing their propaganda.

I definitely don’t support their genocide of Palestinians.

Lol, least obvious Zionist. And even this isn’t true, given you’ve said you supported previous administrations genocides

No I don’t think I would have “always” done that.

You’re doing functionally the same thing now, so not very convincing

In the post you’re replying to I am just specifically talking about the question of whether Hamas killed civilians or not, because the post I replied to claimed:

And that post was in response to your “but what about October 7th!” deflection.

It’s completely consistent for me to say that I regard Israel’s genocide against Palestinians as wrong, and I also regard Hamas killing Israeli civilians as wrong.

And in 1945 you would have been saying “it’s completely consistent for me to regard the Holocaust as wrong while also regarding the Warsaw ghetto uprising as wrong!”

You might say Israel’s genocide is far more significantly wrong, and yes I would agree with that, given the scale of suffering caused. But I still think harming civilians is wrong, whether it’s Palestinian civilians, or Israeli civilians, or anyone else

“You might say the Holocaust is far more significantly wrong, and yes I would agree with that, given the scale of suffering caused. But I still think harming civilians is wrong, whether it’s Jewish civilians, or Nazi civilians, or anyone else”

It’s all Palestinian territory

Which militant resistance group defending Palestine don’t you condemn?

When you have no fucking idea what a primary is

Go get some more Nazi symbols tattooed on

Just say what you mean, or go back to reddit you insufferable fucking chud

BlueMaga Nazis are not one iota less evil than their red counterpart, Jesus Christ.

This fucking idiot thinks that Mitchell and Webb invented the Nazis.

Fuck off

It wasn’t in the fucking primary

Whataboutism

No, allowing oligarchs to take our capital with them when they flee overseas to avoid paying taxes ends businesses being owned by citizens