Hospitals are now used for organ harvesting, eugenical screening and killing babies. Schools are now used for indoctrination and learned helplessness. Hospitals and schools existed and were more functional before they were government-funded.

It helps to understand what you’re arguing against before arguing against it. Then you wouldn’t have wasted time on your comment.

For a government to operate on consent of the governed they must have a fairly easy way to break off from that government. For example, they could allow anyone who purchases land on the border to secede and form their own country over the land that they own. And collectively there should be ways for towns or the whole country to vote and throw off their governments and institute new ones, like the Declaration of Independence says.

Proving my point, John

Of course they’re not exactly the same but they’re all working toward the same end goal of subjugating the masses instead of doing their bidding. The Republicans pretend to support traditional values and the Democrats pretend to support welfare but they both actually promote surveillance, war, big companies, environmental damage, subversion of nature, anti-human technologies, wealth extraction from the public, global government and so on.

What happens if you don’t consent is you get locked up. Which means you don’t live in a free country founded on consent of the governed.

Yes, we have no legitimate recourse. We never did. For example, the US constitution wasn’t legitimately ratified and even if it was, that was 250 years ago. Did we agree to be under it? And even if 99% did agree to be under it, what is the recourse of the 1%? Their only recourse is find another country. But every country is like this and none of them have the consent of the governed. It’s an oligopoly of power-hungry countries. True recourse would be the ability to form your own country. Secession, not only by states but by any group or even an individual. Without that we just get a choice between which prison we prefer.

Every administration has been the same, and it’s all based on an illusion of democracy and a form of government we never got to vote on and have no way of overturning.

I said bad governments don’t deserve taxes. Do you think every government is justified to take as much taxes as it wants however it wants? No? Then shut up! :)

Forming governments is ancap? Sure, dude.

Very true. It was somewhat better with the wire, but much better still without the phone!

Yes an organized strike would be good, and even an unorganized mass strike would do. Without a mass strike we can still be effective however by opting out of the system as much as possible, minimizing taxes and forming parallel societies.

I could answer that question but you obviously aren’t interested in the answer, you’re just looking to argue.

But am I wrong though? We have to form new governments that actually listen to people and has their consent before we give them taxes. Any other kind of government is just a mafia.

A functioning society needs a functioning government. A functioning government based on consent of the governed is a precondition of taxes being justified. Otherwise tax is theft.

It was flagged as AI-generated, not plagiarism. But it may be that the creators of the tool conflate the two.

Agreed. So we need a decent government before we pay taxes.

Yeah humans were more free without the phone

Government “services” are a net negative at this point

So you’re saying taxes are good when we have a government that serves the people? So how about we require the government to serve the people before we let them take taxes?