• Evil_Shrubbery
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    16 hours ago

    Just one random counter example: wiki/First Women’s Bank (New York):

    It opened in 1975 and was part of a broader movement to address the financial needs of women who faced barriers in obtaining credit and financial services from traditional banks.

    There was enough of a need for this 50 years ago that it made literal capitalist financial interest to make it happen.

    Financial freedom in a modern word can be privileged (but absolutely essential for actual survival) and groups (like women, ie half of humanity) can be denied the necessities. If a women needs a man’s signature to get a loan, have a credit card, or even open a banking account, they are not free from that man. And that (one aspect) really changed only in the 80s (slowly & with newer gens).

    Saying some women had bank amounts in the 1700s is like saying “land of the free” in reference to USA (at any point in history actually).
    Or saying how racism in USA ended with a (any) specific law.

    The “meme” is still funny in comparing a basic necessity for a majority vs bcs ofc not a notable % of any human groups have been to space (even including billionaires).

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      21 hours ago

      If a women needs a man’s signature to get a loan, have a credit card, or even open a banking account, they are not free from that man. And that (one aspect) really changed only in the 80s (slowly & with newer gens).

      If you read the article, you’d know that in general this was usually the case way farther back than the 70s.

      Yes, there were more gaps but it’s far from what the meme implies.

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        16 hours ago

        The meme also implies that USSR women had access to space. Both ends of the meme are not a strictly accurate comparison, just a “funny” way of saying that women in USA didn’t have universal access to banking guaranteed by a country-wide law up until the space race.

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          15 hours ago

          To each their own.

          I would also point out that it’s incredibly unlikely any women critical of the Party, or with husbands who were critical of the Party, were allowed to be astronauts.

          So, I felt some context to demonstrate that American women had been banking for a hundred+ years by the time there were Soviet astronauts.

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            Exactly.

            A bit like saying North Koreans have nuclear weapons while black ppl in USA are discriminated against.

            While it is a fact, it’s also clear that the situation in USA is a bit better than 200 years ago whilst the average DPRKean does in fact not have access to a nuclear weapon.

            I don’t think ppl on Lemmy would think no woman in USA had a bank account prior to the (19)70s. Just as they wouldn’t think USSR shipped millions of female tourists to space.

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              14 hours ago

              I don’t think ppl on Lemmy would think no woman in USA had a bank account prior to the (19)70s.

              You have more faith than I do. Right now, someone is explaining to me in another thread how donald trump is actually part of a deep conspiracy with the Dems to keep elections electronic so they can both rig them…

              People are really dumb.

              And the link I posted does not at any point say that all women had access to all banking forever, simply that there is a lot of context that’s missed by claims like this, that come up reasonably frequently.