For years, Chinese leader Xi Jinping has pushed ethnic minority groups like Tibetans and Uyghurs to adopt an identity rooted in Chinese nationality and allegiance to the ruling Communist Party.
Thank you for a normal answer that has a point. And I would generally agree but it’s also true that you need to know at least (meaning “not only”) one language that is spoken with the rest of the country you live in if you want to improve your material life (better jobs, better places, ability to move).
Pretending that imposing one primary common language for an incredibly vast territory while celebrating (this is what the law says) the differences among regions/people equals ethnic cleansing, is disingenuous and ridiculous at best.
Because by the same logic, all the European countries that have an official primary language should be doing ethnic cleansing.
Do you feel these people that speak a different German dialect are being genocided by the German government?
These are unserious takes from unserious people who are just here to pump this shitty cnn article with a bunch of alts for the BurgerReich.
Thank you for saying that. It’s basically impossible to discuss China normally on here with anyone. I don’t think China is inherently a greater evil than any other huge world power. They’re more reasonable and considered than most of the others imo (edit: this originally said “any of the others,” and while I do think China thinks slightly longer term than the EU, I don’t think the EU is especially unreasonable or unconsidered, so I changed it to most), but they don’t have the same goals that I would have, and I think they’re more oppressive than I would like, but I think they also get a lot more shit from the world than other countries do (for example, the USA has been operating camps where immigrant women are occasionally sterilized without their consent or knowledge since Obama- that’s genocide, but nobody cared about it until trump).
I haven’t encountered many other people who are somewhat neutral about China, so I seem to get alternately painted as a Sinophobe and as a shill for Xi.
Do you feel these people that speak a different German dialect are being genocided by the German government?
Not exactly. Genocide is a really serious accusation, and I don’t think it can happen without intent (same for ethnic cleansing). I do think that as a result of the actions of the German government, the German people (and the world as a whole) have lost aspects of their culture that they can’t get back.
There’s always going to be a trade off between cultural diversity and efficiency, and I think Germany then and China now are both focused on efficiency. I can’t even blame them, but I do think there are ways to ensure everyone can achieve competence in a common language without losing their native languages.
Actually, I think that the universality of written Chinese was a probably enough for general national communication, but it does leave people less able to frictionlessly move around (and of course, the implementation of a unified writing system erased other aspects of culture, but that’s a sunk cost).
If I were designing the system, I’d have students attend bilingual schools, so that some classes would be held in Mandarin/Standard German, and I’d have some classes held in the local dialect. That’s more work, but it’s also a really good way to celebrate the culture associated with the dialect. Nowadays in Germany, speaking with a strong dialect is strongly associated with a lack of education, but if people literally learned about and regularly discussed academic subjects in those dialects, people would form new associations.
Thank you for a normal answer that has a point. And I would generally agree but it’s also true that you need to know at least (meaning “not only”) one language that is spoken with the rest of the country you live in if you want to improve your material life (better jobs, better places, ability to move).
Pretending that imposing one primary common language for an incredibly vast territory while celebrating (this is what the law says) the differences among regions/people equals ethnic cleansing, is disingenuous and ridiculous at best.
Because by the same logic, all the European countries that have an official primary language should be doing ethnic cleansing.
Do you feel these people that speak a different German dialect are being genocided by the German government?
These are unserious takes from unserious people who are just here to pump this shitty cnn article with a bunch of alts for the BurgerReich.
Thank you for saying that. It’s basically impossible to discuss China normally on here with anyone. I don’t think China is inherently a greater evil than any other huge world power. They’re more reasonable and considered than most of the others imo (edit: this originally said “any of the others,” and while I do think China thinks slightly longer term than the EU, I don’t think the EU is especially unreasonable or unconsidered, so I changed it to most), but they don’t have the same goals that I would have, and I think they’re more oppressive than I would like, but I think they also get a lot more shit from the world than other countries do (for example, the USA has been operating camps where immigrant women are occasionally sterilized without their consent or knowledge since Obama- that’s genocide, but nobody cared about it until trump).
I haven’t encountered many other people who are somewhat neutral about China, so I seem to get alternately painted as a Sinophobe and as a shill for Xi.
Not exactly. Genocide is a really serious accusation, and I don’t think it can happen without intent (same for ethnic cleansing). I do think that as a result of the actions of the German government, the German people (and the world as a whole) have lost aspects of their culture that they can’t get back.
There’s always going to be a trade off between cultural diversity and efficiency, and I think Germany then and China now are both focused on efficiency. I can’t even blame them, but I do think there are ways to ensure everyone can achieve competence in a common language without losing their native languages.
Actually, I think that the universality of written Chinese was a probably enough for general national communication, but it does leave people less able to frictionlessly move around (and of course, the implementation of a unified writing system erased other aspects of culture, but that’s a sunk cost).
If I were designing the system, I’d have students attend bilingual schools, so that some classes would be held in Mandarin/Standard German, and I’d have some classes held in the local dialect. That’s more work, but it’s also a really good way to celebrate the culture associated with the dialect. Nowadays in Germany, speaking with a strong dialect is strongly associated with a lack of education, but if people literally learned about and regularly discussed academic subjects in those dialects, people would form new associations.