Oldie but goodie.

Transcript: Tweet by the SRSLY wrong podcast. Content: “message to my enemies: when the revolution comes you’re not just gonna get the wall, buddy, you’re gonna get four walls, a roof, clean clothes, good food, education, and quality health care because that’s what every human being alive deserves”

  • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
    4·
    9 months ago

    Saved since I DuckDuckGo’d for that survey yesterday! (Time highlighted at top)

    Bouncing around in my mind for four years, since seeing the Bay Area get a bit torn up by anti-police protests (incl. by well-meaning white folks, and due to the survey I always felt conflicted).

    link the actual source for others.

    I’m pretty good about the linking :) (note, comment was not edited - can check on your end) Not as good about writing alt-text for accessibility but getting better.

    Anyway same URL as you.

    courtesy and respect.

    So discouraging.

    upward of 90% favoring specific reforms aimed at improving police relations

    I guess that’s the move. I alluded to the likely desire to replace police with new-age enforcers and said I didn’t know how that’d work. The survey respondents are more reasonable than me then, taking aim at specific reforms rather than having a pie in the sky dream.

    I’m all for it. Those numbers are unacceptable.

    The person I would be at odds with wouldn’t be you, but someone who has this determined “abolish police 100%” stance. Survey shows that’s not popular. I’d love me some good reform!

    • Cataphract@lemmy.ml
      2·
      9 months ago

      My apologies on the linking bit. Definitely did not see it and kinda blows my mind I missed it. Glad you didn’t have to edit it for another reason because I would’ve called shenanigans in my head :P.

      I honestly feel like the “abolish police” thing was taken up by either bad actors or unfortunate miscommunications (probably both). Back during the peak of the police brutality riots, I read and watched a vast array of interviews and/or op-eds of which no one was saying vanquish all law-enforcement. There were some “hot spots” of police corruption running rampant in some known departments, basically needing a clean house strategy to start fresh, but all the caveats of the movements had a stance of reform, deescalation, and an emphasis on social services being used in lieu of armed response for non-violent calls.

      I typed this out the other day but forgot to get back to it and finish to submit this comment. I wanted to include my interpretation of the other survey images and link the other articles/survey data with it including how gallop ran the poll. If you’re still interested in the discourse let me know and I’ll reply my thoughts.

      • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        9 months ago

        What’s been rubbing me the wrong way lately is the average mention of police on Lemmy seems to be in the acronym ACAB.

        I can’t get over the first letter.

        I’m hard pressed to think of any group of 10m (global) or 700k (domestic) people where I can use the word “All” before describing them. I prefer “PEB”: Policing Enables Bastards. I may be too literal*: “PEB” has been downvoted perhaps 2 or 3 of the 3 or 4 times I’ve mentioned it.

        The most ethical department in the US probably has like two cops and they’re probably great to every single one of the couple hundred residents they serve. (Speculating) Why lump them in with even 99% of the rest of departments even if we believe those 99% all have at least one bad cop who the other cops covered for?

        Maybe I should listen to those interviews featuring people who are glad to accept nuance, instead of just hearing from rightfully upset yet absolutist-minded people on here :)

        Glad to read more from you! 😎