Now the climate crisis is self-evident, a common argument by those who STILL defend polluters is that “NZ is too small to make a difference, and so shouldn’t have to stop intensive dairy farming or driving Ford rangers to school in Auckland”

Rod Carr destroys it in this mic-drop moment.

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    1 year ago

    Well yes.

    More than that it’s too late now to do anything anyway. We are not going to be able to prevent catastrophic climate change and there is a very real chance we are going to go through a world wide age of suffering and pain for most humans on this planet towards the end of my life span. Luckily I will be dead by the time civilisation collapses but chances are nobody will be able to take care of me in my old age and my end is not going to be pleasant.

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        1 year ago

        I disagree. I don’t think .1 degree matters and I don’t think there is anything we can do to cool the earth by .1 degree or even prevent another .1 degree rise.

        It’s truly too late. Even we got to carbon zero tomorrow the carbon in the atmosphere right now is going to have devastating impact for years to come.

        Our only hope is that we somehow missed a feedback mechanism and it kicks in.

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            1 year ago

            The IPCC has been drastically underestimating the rates and magnitude of climate change in all of their forecasts. It’s clear they are putting politics and PR above science in order not to panic the population.

            I just don’t trust them to represent the actual science in the matter.

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                This has nothing to do with trust. They put out forecasts and we know with 100% certainty that all of their forecasts underestimated how much warming there was going to be and how fast.

                Why would you give them your blind trust after such a performance?

                Do you really believe they were wrong in all of their previous forecasts but now they are right?

                And to counter your disgusting accusation that I am anti science:

                The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is an intergovernmental body of the United Nations. It’s not “the climate scientists”. It’s a political body and it’s obvious that it’s white washing what their scientists are telling them and bowing to political pressure.

                So fuck off with your insult and calling me a science denier.

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                    1 year ago

                    Where is the scientific evidence that says it’s too late and there’s nothing we can do?

                    The collection of studies which show that all the predictions of the IPCC so far have underestimated both the magnitude and the velocity of climate change.