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Honestly its rude to be invited by a country to meet their president who decided to respond to your criticisms of their administration only to not show up and go meet the opposition.

Being invided and then no showing shows complete disregard to basic diplomatic Etiquette since it was a mission to show solidarity against the embargo

Bonus socdems being cringe part 4.5: about another member that didnt show up to the presidential meeting

Deeply unserious people

  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Bullshit she skipped a meeting with the president. You can jabber all you want but actions speak louder than words. She has no grounds to criticize the Cuban government as an American she needs to shut the fuck up and get her priorities in order. It is pathetic chauvinism and you should relay to her how pathetic this was. She’s incapable of turning herself into a comrade and acts like a Liberal so I doubt your words

    Oh another chauvinist part of the DSA “stepped forward to defend her criticisms” of Cuba? Who cares? Libs defending libs doesn’t make it less lib

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      I agree. The US government has levied untold suffering onto the Cuban people and the Cuban President was still willing to sit down with them. The US is Cuba’s oppressor and despite that there are people in the DSA who would like to waste their breath pretending that they have a principled Marxist critique rather than combat their own governments cruelty. Imperial Chauvinism. I am sure that Maria thinks that she has a better understanding of Cuba’s conditions than Cubans themselves, but she is just wasting people’s time and hurting the movement she pretends to espouse.

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        If you hate heads of state, why would you go on a delegation who plans on meeting one? Organize your own shit instead of riding coat tails losers

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          from my reading of this, the “comrade” wanted to make the trip about the “crisis of political legitimacy” in Cuba and how the leadership are autocratic and bureaucratic. From her article:

          But there is a second aspect of the crisis which we did not focus on during this delegation: a crisis of political legitimacy. Cuba’s government is a regime where decision-making power rests in the hands of the Central Committee of the PCC (the only legal political party) alongside its bureaucracy while the elected legislature is a disempowered rubber-stamp committee. Legally recognized mass organizations we met with on this delegation, like the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution, Federation of Cuban Women, and the Workers’ Central Union of Cuba, are loyal to the bureaucracy, while independent political organizing is repressed.

          so instead of going to the delegation as planned, she pulled an immature stunt as “protest” to get attention to her “cause” and center the conversation in the DSA about Cuba’s “crisis of political legitimacy”. This is just open and naked chauvinism, and when the groups she met with didn’t conform to her idealist chauvinist pigheaded view, she shits on them and calls them “loyal to the bureaucracy”

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        Diaz Canel was a fierce supporter of LGBT+ rights, he send doctor missions during the covid pandemic to help other countries like Mexico and Italy, continue support of palestine, he is not Biden, he responded to their criticism and hosted the DSA in Cuba, at least they should have meet the guy

      • WhyEssEff [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        you cannot in the same breath levy criticisms and refuse to entertain the head of state specifically trying to meet with you to discuss said criticisms. it is petty and chauvinistic and betrays an idea that your aim of criticism is destructive rather than constructive–an attempt to jettison ideologically from the project rather than contribute to it. if they truly wanted to see the communist experiment in Cuba succeed, they would jump at the chance to communicate their ideas with the people currently running it.

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          Ultra chauvinists like Maria call for debate but they really just want to platform their own ridiculous positions and listen to no one. This is par for the course in what counts as debate among this brand of Trots.

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        Socialist ones? Yes. Are you some fucking chauvinist too or what? Even reactionaries like Kissinger met with socialist heads of state for diplomacy. Your friend is more of a chauvinist arrogant unprofessional idiot than fucking Kissinger, let that soak in