• shottymcb@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    This. Leftist candidates won’t be viable until far right candidates aren’t. We’re choosing between “I’ll be a dictator” vs “democracy will continue” and the fascist is a likely outcome. The window has to move left to “democracy will continue” vs “maybe we can make things better”. If you’re holding out for a communist to be elected, that ain’t happening in our lifetime. The revolution is not coming. Revolution only comes when life is utterly intolerable and the capitalists know better than to let that happen.

    Our only real hope is to shift things that way over generations.

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      no, if your “democracy will continue” involves supporting a genocidal maniac regardless of your other options, then your hands are just as stained as that of your government and that of the nazi-zionist state it’s supporting

      to rephrase, if you a Leftist (socialist, communist, anarchist, not a liberal) stoops so low as to vote for a genocidal or imperialist government to preserve fascist and inhumane values you don’t share, you’re just as responsible for the policies these governments enacts, be it land-grabbing, systemic discrimination, imperialist and genocidal foreign policies and the rest

      those same policies would later be used against you, as when there’s no outer group left to stomp on, they’ll turn on you, case in point, draconic spy laws once used against brown ppl, muslims and other foreigners are now being used against americans

      revolutions aren’t painstakingly planned, you prepare for it and embrace it when it happens

      to op above, you must be quite priviledged to be in a position where “life isn’t utterly intolerable” that little minority…

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        This take is so dumb it should win an award.

        You have two options:

        1. Supports genocide, isn’t a dictator, relatively progressive compared to predecessors.
        2. Supports genocide, wants to become a dictator, moved our country back 50 years, would probably end democracy if elected, currently in a criminal trial for paying a porn star he cheated on his wife with hush money then fraudulently claiming it as legal expenses.

        If that choice isn’t obvious to you, you are actually a fucking moron. Abstaining is just as bad as voting for the dictator.

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        Your delusion: social upheaval where workers unite and form a glorious socialist revolution where we fill the reflecting pool with billionaire blood and everyone just magically agrees to get along afterwards.

        What actually happens: millions suffer and die under the thumb of local fascist warlords while foreign powers balkanize the US to ensure we never get anywhere close to the progress we have now.

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          Quite a few people didn’t pay attention in history classes and it shows. The French Revolution is a pretty good litmus test actually – if you’ve studied it, you know that what came after killing the royalty and rich was chaos that no one benefited from. If you haven’t, you just think guillotines are based and that’s it.