I get your point and I think we agree on fundamentals.
I’d be careful about using US as a point of reference though, as their police seem to have very deep systemic problems. Not to say that other countries didn’t have those too, but the US really is in a league of their own.
Shit sandwich is a good allegory and of course there should be fair
and open investigation every time an officer is accused of misconduct. And in the end I find it more important that the police is held accountable rather than being let off the hook.
FYI I brought up USA and case Baltimore as people are people, and they function in the same way in USA and Europe. The police profession is similar in its mechanisms in both countries – law determines what is allowed to be done, law is words on abstract level and vague enough to push final per-situation decision authority to the field operatives. I expect the same behaviour of “look the other way” to occur in Europe, too, when given the same systemic setup, that is: heavy consequences from interpreting conflicting/vague requirements “wrong” in a split second decision, where the “wrong/right” is ultimately determined after the fact over several months with much more information.
Yes, I agree and I am sure they will investigate this case thoroughly. It will be interesting to follow it, there are so many levels it impacts (legal, political, national security, …).
I get your point and I think we agree on fundamentals.
I’d be careful about using US as a point of reference though, as their police seem to have very deep systemic problems. Not to say that other countries didn’t have those too, but the US really is in a league of their own.
Shit sandwich is a good allegory and of course there should be fair and open investigation every time an officer is accused of misconduct. And in the end I find it more important that the police is held accountable rather than being let off the hook.
FYI I brought up USA and case Baltimore as people are people, and they function in the same way in USA and Europe. The police profession is similar in its mechanisms in both countries – law determines what is allowed to be done, law is words on abstract level and vague enough to push final per-situation decision authority to the field operatives. I expect the same behaviour of “look the other way” to occur in Europe, too, when given the same systemic setup, that is: heavy consequences from interpreting conflicting/vague requirements “wrong” in a split second decision, where the “wrong/right” is ultimately determined after the fact over several months with much more information.
Yes, I agree and I am sure they will investigate this case thoroughly. It will be interesting to follow it, there are so many levels it impacts (legal, political, national security, …).