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    This is a bizarre take, even by PugJesus standards.

    It would be like saying, “Oh, you claim to hate Nazism, yet you like West (or East) Germany which is still recovering from the effects of Nazism. Curious.”

    Russia isn’t socialist to anyone who has developed object permanence. There’s no hypocrisy in someone hating socialism and liking Russia, because Russia isn’t socialist.

    The only reason I can think why anyone would call Russia socialist is if their worldview still revolves around Cold War anti-communism and they haven’t figured out how to adjust or adapt their mental frameworks or rhetorical points since then. Which seems to include a fair number of confused liberals, apparently.

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          Fine, I’ll repeat myself:

          “MAGA hats have no real reason to mistake the Nordic countries as socialist, but do; and every reason to mistake Russia as the product of ‘socialism’, including a number of still-nationalized industries and high public sector employment, a former KGB member as leader who constantly praises the Soviet Union, and a still-active Communist Party, yet (correctly) identify it as the kind of non-socialist traditionalist shithole they’d love to live in. To them, ‘socialist’ just means ‘gives LGBT people basic rights’.”

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            That’s still complete nonsense. The Nordic countries also have publically owned industries, most notably, the oil industries responsible for much of their wealth. There’s as much of a case for them being socialist as there is for Russia, which is to say, not much of one at all.

            But to cite Russia’s past socialism as a reason to call it socialist now is by far the most absurd thing about this meme and your argument. The reason that socialist government doesn’t exist anymore is because it was destroyed and replaced by the current government. You might as well call the US monarchist because it used to be a British colony. It’s completely insane.

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              But to cite Russia’s past socialism as a reason to call it socialist now is by far the most absurd thing about this meme and your argument.

              Since reading comprehension is apparently in short supply on your end of things, let me help you out one last time:

              every reason to mistake Russia as the product of ‘socialism’

              yet (correctly) identify it as the kind of non-socialist traditionalist shithole they’d love to live in.

              To them, ‘socialist’ just means ‘gives LGBT people basic rights’.

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                So… you’re owning the right by pointing out that they don’t misinterpret something you think they should?

                This take was a miss, sorry.

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                  So… you’re owning the right by pointing out that they don’t misinterpret something you think they should?

                  To them, ‘socialist’ just means ‘gives LGBT people basic rights’.

                  Sorry, buddy, if you want any more help figuring this out, you’re gonna have to go ask a teacher; I don’t have the patience for it.