Trots and ultras suffer from very similar disorders, both stemming from chauvinism and opportunism. These types of left coms are basically turbo-trots, if you took everything wrong with them and turned it up to 11 and added a very jaded and cynical aloof edge to it. Trots are often sincere and try to do things (too many things sometimes), whereas these types are terminally online and have flowed much further down the cynical pipeline and are justifying their own superiority complex and laziness
Yeah it’s definitely not exclusive to them, but they’re the only ones with any offline presence that I see this from locally. And again, not all of them, trots are interesting because they range from totally reasonable to complete cranks. But I guess you could say that of anyone.
I’m actually optimistic now that all sectarian labels are becoming less important even among those that would normally claim them for themselves. Locally I see lots of Trotsky-enjoyers who would have previously claimed the name and are now looking to build something broader than any specific label. Which is more or less where I am politically as well.
A lot of trots have improved, but easily 30% will still argue this.
None of the people involved here are trots. You are being sectarian just to fit in.
Trots and ultras suffer from very similar disorders, both stemming from chauvinism and opportunism. These types of left coms are basically turbo-trots, if you took everything wrong with them and turned it up to 11 and added a very jaded and cynical aloof edge to it. Trots are often sincere and try to do things (too many things sometimes), whereas these types are terminally online and have flowed much further down the cynical pipeline and are justifying their own superiority complex and laziness
This is essentially sectarian word salad.
it’s all entirely correct descriptions of trends in western leftoid thought
Yeah it’s definitely not exclusive to them, but they’re the only ones with any offline presence that I see this from locally. And again, not all of them, trots are interesting because they range from totally reasonable to complete cranks. But I guess you could say that of anyone.
I’m actually optimistic now that all sectarian labels are becoming less important even among those that would normally claim them for themselves. Locally I see lots of Trotsky-enjoyers who would have previously claimed the name and are now looking to build something broader than any specific label. Which is more or less where I am politically as well.