What I have learned:

  • Russia has already won the Ukraine war
  • Which NATO started
  • A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
  • Also Ukraine was the world’s main provider of CSAM
  • Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It’s literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I’m genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

  • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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    24 days ago

    That is the power of an echo chamber. My favorite post by a hex was when he tried to convince me that the Tiananmen Square massare was fake. He had a comprehensive list of over 20 links prepared, with bangers like “Actually, the massacre wasn’t happening on Tiananmen Square, but next to it. Checkmate globalists”. I’d love to link it here, but shame on @goat for deleting that post and sending them to the Tankie corner, because now I can’t find it anymore, not even in the mod log.

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      24 days ago

      Oh god yeah, all the freaking time. I feel my brain turn to Jello when someone goes all-in on the “massacre was fake” bullshit, often insisting that no pictures exist, pretending it’s just the Tank Guy pic. Someone references the notorious bike pic, they pretend you’re talking about a similar bike pic that’s a LITTLE less clear about tank treads crushing human bodies. You link them the actual bike pic, they either pretend they don’t see the slaughter (best I heard was “they’re not dead or run over, they’re just taking a nap”) or they start saying “well those were the violent people and China saved the peaceful protestors from them”

      It makes me want to vomit

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      Actually, the massacre wasn’t happening on Tiananmen Square, but next to it.

      That one’s true. There’s probably been some deaths on the square itself but the bulk was in side-streets blocked by Peking locals in solidarity with the students, once the army fought itself through that and arrived at the square it issued an ultimatum and the students caved. Eleven of the withdrawing students were later killed away from the square by a stray tank crew. The tank man picture was taken the day after.

      Don’t get into fights with tankies over such things. Rather ask why the CCP was stomping Dengists – which is what the students were.

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      I think I saw a version of that. Also featured a celebration of Tank Man, because it was a sign that the Chinese forces were being very humane about it because he felt empowered to show his resistance and the tank stopped and didn’t want to run him over, see, they didn’t mean any harm!

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        24 days ago

        One version that was puked over me was “the west lies that he was ran over by the tank, when it reality he was shot , then they moved the corpse to the side and then the tank moved”.

        Of course some others say he just walked away (got bored I guess?) and had a long and happy life.

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          24 days ago

          Well that was just the Barbara Walters interview with Zemin. I think the official stance on who he is/was and what happened to him is just a big ‘¯_(ツ)_/¯’.