War on guns and muh rights and tyranny, it’s all right wing talking points.
No-one is “waging a war against guns”, it’s a bullshit argument, just like “guns are needed against tyranny”
What people want is sane gun laws, so that -for example- crazies that want to shoot up schools and such, can’t get their hands on them. I’ll assume you disagree there and you enjoy school shootings and would want to arm teachers because nothing is better than a gun fight in a school hallway, right?
You’ve never noticed that the gun violence as it is is a uniquely US problem? Doesn’t happen anywhere else in the world at that insane level. Yeah, each country once in a decade or damn near century might experience a mass shooting, the US experiences those at about once a day. The US is also unique in its gun laws that they want as many guns for people as possible. It totally has nothing to do with gun makers having politicians int heir pockets, mixed with people like you who are Brainwashed into actually believing you need guns to protect against the US armed forces
I’m literally laughing while writing this, because you peope actually believe that a) you’d stand a chance to survive even a minute, and b) you’d actually fight tyranny. Trump literally is claiming multiple times he’ll install himself as a dictator, and his gun loving followers not only love him for it, they just go in and claim democracy is bad.
All US gun laws have done is cause suffering and death, and yes, guns and ammo should be heavily restricted. That would make your country liveable instead of it being the hell hole it currently is.
i’m not sure the number of dicks that a person needs to suck to no longer be in the right wing camp, but i am way past whatever number that is
you’re completely wrong. the solution isn’t fewer guns, it’s many MORE guns. if teachers all had guns, none of these school shootings would happen
the problem is that in the US mental health is not free and mental health evaluations are tied to people being deemed second-class citizens.
these laws that are designed to remove guns from crazy people mostly result in 18 and 19 year olds who are at higher risk of going crazy specifically avoiding mental health help so they aren’t permanently denied rights and become second-class citizens, and they are already likely to avoid mental health help as a result of cost factors
shockingly, many teenagers with mental health problems don’t have just bags of money lying around to pay for extremely expensive professionals while in a highly stratified society with extremely unequal wealth distribution.
you and your ilk create bizarre incentives for people to not get mental health help, encourage schools to be completely gun free, and then are pikuchu-level-shocked when some crazed 19 year old doesn’t get mental health help and then goes to a school in the USA and kills children
YOU are saying all the left wing talking points, and they may sound nice in a country that has a safety net, and there may be so-called data to support these theories that if you disarm everyone then everything is better, but the reality is if you disarm everyone, you set the stage for a new white nationalist dictator to decimate the USA without providing that much additional safety that couldn’t be accomplished in other ways
Instead of complaining about too many guns, you should be advocating for free guns for teachers and making health care universal and disentangled from other aspects of civic life
but it’s SO much easier to call me a right wing maniac right? And it’s SO much easier to push ideas that would never work in the US and are not only politically infeasible but would also be disastrous… At least everyone will think you are smart for parroting all the liberal talking points.
Where I’m from, mental illness is treated for free, and quite well. I’m currently living in Canada, where mental illness is not treated for free, and fuck, It shows. Even in Mexico we take better care of those wil mental illness and again, it shows.
I’m 100% in favor of free (mental, dental, eye, brain, whatever, everything) healthcare for everyone world wide, it would fix so so much shit. It would cost a penny and save us all a pound, next to it being the right thing to do.
Having said that. You want more guns, thinking it will fix the too many guns issue. You think guns in the classroom is a good idea.
Are you crazy?
It’s a serious question. You, like many extremists in the US, have lost perspective. Let me give you an alternative country. At those point it doesn’t matter which, because any country literally will do as the US is very alone with this particular problem
In this other country, we don’t give guns to anyone nilly willy. Actually, we don’t give guns to anyone but police and a few people that are at very well registered and regulated sports shooting clubs. Moet types of guns are simply outlawed. AR15? Not even for the police, and the military will use something better.
Those that do get guns get VERY long and intensive training beforenthey are allowed to even touch guns, let alone shoot them, let alone take them on the streets.
Howuch gun crime do we have? Pretty much zero. How many mass shootings? In the past 2 decades: One and that is because the police severely fucked up with background checks on one of those sports shooting clubs. People don’t want these gun laws to change, nobody does. Why not?
Because we see what happens when you let people play with guns. The US is the perfect example of how NOT to do guns
You have mass shootings DAILY. like WTF, how even… Kids get taught what to do in an “active shooter situation” because obviously the US being the US, they have to make tragedies sound cool.
And you think arming teachers will fix this? You actually believe this? You know, teachers, those severely underpaid people who are there to relay knowledge to kids? They’re supposed to be Rambo now too? Those same teachers who already “accidentally discharged a firearm” (that is cool sounding US bull for “fucked up and shot a gun”) at schools? Those teachers that can half the time not control truly classes and sometimes go off and hit students?
Yeah, that is a recipe for a fucking bloodbath, not to mention… Why?
Just ban all guns. At this point it’s proven a million times over, thousands over thousands of Children have died showing you the point: people (and Americans in particular) cannot be trusted with dangerous toys. Take away the toys, fix the problem.
All that sanctimonious “but muy rights” bullshit is nonsense. No, the founding fathers (uuuugghhh) did not envision everyone having 5 AR15’s and teachers having anti air installed, as none of that shit existed. Had they known what was coming, they would NOT have allowed everyone bear arms, they would have allowed no-one but police to bear arms. Hell, even police didn’t exist back then
Guns are cool and dangerous toys, that’s it. Americans love anything that’s “cool” so they love guns. Dear God, at least admit that part. While at it, admit you love guns so much that you don’t mind kids killed because that’s what happens.
NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS THESE IDIOTIC GUN RULES AND NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS THIS IDIOTIC PROBLEM.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ READ THAT ^^^^^^^^^^
Get rid of guns, get rid of the problem. Mexico is half way a fucking ear zone and I feel safer there every single time that any time I’m in the US.
You teach little children what to do in case a gunman comes in to murder them all, why are we even having this ridiculous discussion? AAAHHHH!
Yeah you are a right wing type.
War on guns and muh rights and tyranny, it’s all right wing talking points.
No-one is “waging a war against guns”, it’s a bullshit argument, just like “guns are needed against tyranny”
What people want is sane gun laws, so that -for example- crazies that want to shoot up schools and such, can’t get their hands on them. I’ll assume you disagree there and you enjoy school shootings and would want to arm teachers because nothing is better than a gun fight in a school hallway, right?
You’ve never noticed that the gun violence as it is is a uniquely US problem? Doesn’t happen anywhere else in the world at that insane level. Yeah, each country once in a decade or damn near century might experience a mass shooting, the US experiences those at about once a day. The US is also unique in its gun laws that they want as many guns for people as possible. It totally has nothing to do with gun makers having politicians int heir pockets, mixed with people like you who are Brainwashed into actually believing you need guns to protect against the US armed forces
I’m literally laughing while writing this, because you peope actually believe that a) you’d stand a chance to survive even a minute, and b) you’d actually fight tyranny. Trump literally is claiming multiple times he’ll install himself as a dictator, and his gun loving followers not only love him for it, they just go in and claim democracy is bad.
All US gun laws have done is cause suffering and death, and yes, guns and ammo should be heavily restricted. That would make your country liveable instead of it being the hell hole it currently is.
i’m not sure the number of dicks that a person needs to suck to no longer be in the right wing camp, but i am way past whatever number that is
you’re completely wrong. the solution isn’t fewer guns, it’s many MORE guns. if teachers all had guns, none of these school shootings would happen
the problem is that in the US mental health is not free and mental health evaluations are tied to people being deemed second-class citizens.
these laws that are designed to remove guns from crazy people mostly result in 18 and 19 year olds who are at higher risk of going crazy specifically avoiding mental health help so they aren’t permanently denied rights and become second-class citizens, and they are already likely to avoid mental health help as a result of cost factors
shockingly, many teenagers with mental health problems don’t have just bags of money lying around to pay for extremely expensive professionals while in a highly stratified society with extremely unequal wealth distribution.
you and your ilk create bizarre incentives for people to not get mental health help, encourage schools to be completely gun free, and then are pikuchu-level-shocked when some crazed 19 year old doesn’t get mental health help and then goes to a school in the USA and kills children
YOU are saying all the left wing talking points, and they may sound nice in a country that has a safety net, and there may be so-called data to support these theories that if you disarm everyone then everything is better, but the reality is if you disarm everyone, you set the stage for a new white nationalist dictator to decimate the USA without providing that much additional safety that couldn’t be accomplished in other ways
Instead of complaining about too many guns, you should be advocating for free guns for teachers and making health care universal and disentangled from other aspects of civic life
but it’s SO much easier to call me a right wing maniac right? And it’s SO much easier to push ideas that would never work in the US and are not only politically infeasible but would also be disastrous… At least everyone will think you are smart for parroting all the liberal talking points.
Holy crap, where to begin.
Where I’m from, mental illness is treated for free, and quite well. I’m currently living in Canada, where mental illness is not treated for free, and fuck, It shows. Even in Mexico we take better care of those wil mental illness and again, it shows.
I’m 100% in favor of free (mental, dental, eye, brain, whatever, everything) healthcare for everyone world wide, it would fix so so much shit. It would cost a penny and save us all a pound, next to it being the right thing to do.
Having said that. You want more guns, thinking it will fix the too many guns issue. You think guns in the classroom is a good idea.
Are you crazy?
It’s a serious question. You, like many extremists in the US, have lost perspective. Let me give you an alternative country. At those point it doesn’t matter which, because any country literally will do as the US is very alone with this particular problem
In this other country, we don’t give guns to anyone nilly willy. Actually, we don’t give guns to anyone but police and a few people that are at very well registered and regulated sports shooting clubs. Moet types of guns are simply outlawed. AR15? Not even for the police, and the military will use something better.
Those that do get guns get VERY long and intensive training beforenthey are allowed to even touch guns, let alone shoot them, let alone take them on the streets.
Howuch gun crime do we have? Pretty much zero. How many mass shootings? In the past 2 decades: One and that is because the police severely fucked up with background checks on one of those sports shooting clubs. People don’t want these gun laws to change, nobody does. Why not?
Because we see what happens when you let people play with guns. The US is the perfect example of how NOT to do guns
You have mass shootings DAILY. like WTF, how even… Kids get taught what to do in an “active shooter situation” because obviously the US being the US, they have to make tragedies sound cool.
And you think arming teachers will fix this? You actually believe this? You know, teachers, those severely underpaid people who are there to relay knowledge to kids? They’re supposed to be Rambo now too? Those same teachers who already “accidentally discharged a firearm” (that is cool sounding US bull for “fucked up and shot a gun”) at schools? Those teachers that can half the time not control truly classes and sometimes go off and hit students?
Yeah, that is a recipe for a fucking bloodbath, not to mention… Why?
Just ban all guns. At this point it’s proven a million times over, thousands over thousands of Children have died showing you the point: people (and Americans in particular) cannot be trusted with dangerous toys. Take away the toys, fix the problem.
All that sanctimonious “but muy rights” bullshit is nonsense. No, the founding fathers (uuuugghhh) did not envision everyone having 5 AR15’s and teachers having anti air installed, as none of that shit existed. Had they known what was coming, they would NOT have allowed everyone bear arms, they would have allowed no-one but police to bear arms. Hell, even police didn’t exist back then
Guns are cool and dangerous toys, that’s it. Americans love anything that’s “cool” so they love guns. Dear God, at least admit that part. While at it, admit you love guns so much that you don’t mind kids killed because that’s what happens.
NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS THESE IDIOTIC GUN RULES AND NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS THIS IDIOTIC PROBLEM.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ READ THAT ^^^^^^^^^^
Get rid of guns, get rid of the problem. Mexico is half way a fucking ear zone and I feel safer there every single time that any time I’m in the US.
You teach little children what to do in case a gunman comes in to murder them all, why are we even having this ridiculous discussion? AAAHHHH!