• ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io
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    4 months ago

    The easiest way to tell the difference is that monkeys have tails and apes don’t. Chimps are definitely apes and I’m not sure what OP is getting at.

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      4 months ago

      What I’m getting at is taxonomy. A valid taxon has to include all descendents of the crown group. That means that for monkeys to constitute a valid taxon, apes must be included. Same reason why birds are technically dinosaurs.

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        4 months ago

        A monophyletic clade must include all descendants. A taxonomic group itself can hold anything.

        Viruses can also integrate DNA into cells and it sticks there forever sometimes, thus bypassing the tree entirely (making it a network, i.e. no longer acyclic thus no longer a tree).

        There is a lot of weirdness in the world, stranger than people have dreamed.:-P

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          4 months ago

          Fair enough. I just belong to the people who require a valid taxon to be monophyletic. (Btw., “clade” already implies monophyleti…city? Monophyleticness?)

          Also, shut up about viruses, they make a mess of everything and are beautifully chaotic and I hate them and I love them. xD

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            4 months ago

            I will never shut up about viruses - they are aliens on earth, or like something I dunno but they are so fucking cool!

            viruses