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    You don’t get to promote right-wing policies in another futile attempt to court moderate republicans (who will always vote for the real thing over diet-fascism) and then complain about division.

    This is exactly how we got here. You want to stop eating shit? Stop supporting objectively evil policies and then complaining that other people won’t support them with you.

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      The fuck are you on about? We got here cause nobody but retired geriatric fucks are voting locally. So you get your local municipality filled with fucken hate mongers who create a self feeding loop to the only local voting bloc. This locks up movement at the local level, leaving the federal level free to enact the status quo and ratchet us ever rightward while pocketing more free speech than any of us will make in our lifetimes.

      If motherfuckers were out there in The Forum instead of online in a forum, we might be making some grassroot changes. These shithead illegal immigration policies probably wouldnt even be in the spotlight if scared old white people weren’t the biggest swath of participating voters.

      Now what the fuck do we do about this impending presidential vote? Throw out the incumbent, who may I remind you, is playing patty cake with a literal Na-Dictator in the polls, and grab someone less known? Less popular? Or do we say fuck it and just ascend the guy with 35 felony charges by voting for fucking Jill Stein or some shit?

      The only way forward in reality, with the physical limitations put on us by our meat space universe, is to stamp Trump out and immediately get on implementing ranked choice voting or something similar. That’s it. There ain’t no ifs ands or buts, the laughing gods have given you two 80 year olds and thats what you get. If you dont want that its not changing at this point. That is reality. We won’t win by being a tsunami that envelopes the land. We win by carving canyons with persistence every single fucking election big or small. Get out and vote if you want to stop eating shit.

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        These shithead illegal immigration policies probably wouldnt even be in the spotlight if scared old white people weren’t the biggest swath of participating voters.

        Fascists are never going to vote democrat.

        Triangulation doesn’t work. When you triangulate yourself to be 1 inch left of hitler, the people who want hitler vote hitler, and the people who wanted not-hitler don’t vote. When you get elected for being not-hitler, and proceed to facilitate genocide, people who wanted not-hitler don’t vote

        You learned nothing in 2020.

        You learned nothing when Obama lost the house and senate in 2010 after not pulling out of Iraq+afghanistan, ending the war on drugs, and doing other stuff that voters expected of him, instead tryed to reach out to moderate republicans.

        You learned nothing when Kerry lost after campaigning on doing the wars more competently in 2004.

        And you will learn nothing in November.

        Now what the fuck do we do about this impending presidential vote?

        Pressure Biden to cut off all aid to Israel and sanction them until they give equal civil rights to Palestinians and return their homes, use military hospitals to provide healthcare to women, send in the military to destroy the child-drowning fence on the rio, etc.

        Doing good things instead of bad things is only way Biden can hope to be reelected (no, the republicans or the parliamentarian or the SCOTUS or Joe Manchin or civility and norms aren’t an excuse).

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      we got here because left will abandon dems at the drop of a hat and right will cling to republicans no matter what they do. I literally do not see us improving unless the most left canidate wins 90% of the time.

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      I’m sure it has nothing at all to do with loud-mouthed SJWs that find a single issue to whine about- but ONLY during election years, latch on to that to the point were they don’t vote and ask that others not vote, and then disappear after the election- only to reroll as a victim of their own decisions.

      Maybe do some work between elections and this shit wouldn’t be happening.