I’m trying out the miryoku layout. Let’s see if I last more than 30 seconds.

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    1 year ago

    Agree. I made the big mistake to switch from a full sized, but split (Microsoft Sculpt) keyboard on the German standard QWERTZ layout to a fully split ortholinear with 36 keys in Mine-Layout, with Home-Row-Mods pretty much in one go and without taking enough time per day to really train (on AgileFingers or Keybr.com). It took me more than a year to get back to barely acceptable typing speeds but I always had the feeling to be worse off if I would go back and start over.

    My advise would be to change only a few things at a time and get comfortable before changing the next thing, but since you are already trying out Miryoku, I can only wish for your success (others have done a switch as big as the one I did without any problems), and to have fun with it.

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      Yep. I went from 104 keys to the split MS ergo keyboard, to an ErgoDox, at which point I learned Dvorak. I then gradually dropped some keys before building my own 40 key split. I’ve since dropped 4 keys off that to get down to 36, which I’ve been using as a daily driver at work for about a year. I’m just about to build a new split with 24 keys. Really not sure how well it will work, but figured I’d give it a go. Trying to find that balance between too few keys vs too much hand movement.

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          1 year ago

          I’ve been thinking about switching from Dvorak to a better alt layout but I Think that after years of Dvorak and good speed (150wpm), it’s just not worth that minor increase in efficiency lol. I think I’ll be in the Dvorak club for a long time

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            1 year ago

            What would be a better layout? Only thing I can think of is colemak if you’re programming with the semi colon. When I do that I just switch back to qwerty, typing speed doesn’t really hold back my programming speed.

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              Dvorak is kinda bad compared to other alt layouts. I think the original appeal was that it was built into windows. Or I just picked between colemak and Dvorak randomly lol. There’s a lot of math that goes into developing alt layouts, and a lot of it is personal to your use case.

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                1 year ago

                This is the first time hearing someone call it bad, do you have any links explaining why it’s bad compared to others?

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                  I don’t have any links on hand. I could probably find some later. It’s discussed on r/keyboard_layouts. Dvorak has a lot of SFB compared to newer alt layouts, and L on a pinky above S is kinda sus lol

                  I should add that Dvorak is still leagues better than qwerty

                • Mark Stosberg@urbanists.social
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                  1 year ago

                  @lambchop I wouldn’t call the Miryoku layout bad. I think has some elegance and consistency to it, but I strongly prefer one shot modifiers, which Miryoku doesn’t have room for. I created an alternate layout that includes a sixth column on each hand for rarely-used or optional keys. My “markstos” layout is also in the QMK repo for Corne keyboards. There are several other differences as well! I have a page about it here:

                  https://mark.stosberg.com/markstos-corne-3x5-1-keyboard-layout/

                  #keyboards #ergomechkeyboards

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                    1 year ago

                    The layout referred to above is Dvorak, not Miryoku. Thanks for sharing your OSM layout tho, I’ll check it out. Always room to improve mine lol :p