I’ve decided to do my first Babylon 5 rewatch!
Lets have a binge thread to talk about B5!
I would love to find a 4k remaster of the series, there are some great demo videos on youtube, but on the streaming sites I can only find 720p. If you have any trouble choosing which streaming service to use just search for fmhy and they will have a curated list of options.
TV shows were wild back then, 22 episodes per season, 45 minutes each; 1000 minutes per season!
The series is such an interesting piece Sci-fi history. Having the premise stolen by DS9, having to swap out one of the key characters after season one and pivot the story, the curse and early demise of many of the actors…
Curse?
If you do a “where are they now?” on the cast many are dead :/
A TV show with adult actors, plus 30 years after it was filmed… Yeah… they are not going to be around much longer.
Oh yeah but a lot of them died super early
Humanoid aliens with human traits… meh… but generally a nice watch.
Season 1 Episode 1 - Midnight on the Firing Line
Wow, the graphics look surprisingly clean, but very outdated!
Hahah, “Earth is some lost Centauri Tribe Making us distant relatives”
Vir is my spirit animal
League of Non-Aligned worlds, ohh yeah Space UN, but without the static veto security council
I do not like Santiago. I’ve always thought that a leader should have a strong chin. He has no chin, and his vice president has several. This, to me, is not a good combination.
The big mcguffin for episode 1 was the technical advisor for the raiders had archived communication between narn high command and the invasion fleet verifying the invasion was unprovoked. That seems like a wild operational choice, no compartmentalization for a sensitive operation.
PsyCore is super evil; Join us; Prison; or Lobotomy drugs.
Garabalis second favorite thing in the universe is loonytoons and not sex, as was so heavily hinted at. No way this joke setup could happen anymore
Really enjoyed re-watching this series! Very dense and intricate in terms of setting and story lines compared to other science fiction shows on air at the time. Even if I wasn’t so young then I believe I would have had difficulty following along week-to-week. Now, if I’d known about usenet…
Season 2 Thoughts and Comments
Over this season we see earth fall in with the secret police, who are different than the psycorps. Earth force is a very dangerous place for good people to be now.
The shadows and vorlons have revealed themselves as agents of good and evil respectively.
Lando is well onto the path of space Khan, naked hunger for expansionist empire. Right now he is somewhat reluctant, but when pressed uses grand anger as a shield. He is in the backseat, but he is responsible, and its tearing him apart. Who is to say where the shadows have also influenced.
We end the season with a Earth Centauri non-aggression pact, and Centurian expansionism into all of its neighbors.
The membari have been very quiet this season.
The purpose of Babylon 4 and its space jumping haven’t been hinted at.
What will happen to the vorlon timelord jack the ripper now?
Overall - The season has good intrigue setup, I’m now emotionally invested. I’d say less filler in this season, but still quite high maybe 30% totally B plot episodes.
The pieces are on the chess board now!
Season 2 - Episode 15
The PsyCorps is your friend, trust the PsyCorps.
Season 1- Episode 12 - By Any Means Necessary
Opening with a space traffic crisis, due to a computer malfunction? Contractors installed substandard chips throughout the whole system… I see Intel exists in this timeline
Fussy bickering school children over a plant.
The strike act enabled the commander to divert funds from the military budget to the dock worker equipment, creating enemies in the government who would rather have crushed the strike and not created precedent.
Mostly a filler episode, but some real character moments for the ambassadors.
Season 1 - Episode 13 - Signs and Portents
Ohh, i remember this guy, the shadow devil genie!
What do you want? Really well done, searching everyone for their weaknesses, their emotional blindness.
a gift from friends you dont know you have! What a great way to have mystery and political debt in one scene.
Urinal Design… who wants to have waist high center piler urinals?
Also… how many shows do you know that have a urinal scene? Bold!
Season 1 - Episode 21 - The Quality of Mercury
All filler
Sub plot A - Ambassadors corrupting each other
A veritable parade of internal organs.
eleventy-fifth - is that 115?
eleventy-seventh - is that 117?
Lando uses his penis to cheat at cards… wow, i totally forgot about that. Thats quite impressive.
Sub plot B - for this episode is a medical machine that is a reverse vampire machine, the operator donates life force to the patient to make the patient better.
I did the necessary thing, that is not really the same as the right thing.
Sub plot C - murder gets personality wiped, but needs a psy personality scan first? not sure why the scan is needed at all
Season 1 - Episode 22 - Chrysalis (Season Finale)
Somewhere in the huge expanse of B5 they have a garden maze.
This episode really tees up the Shadow and Light diplomatic war, Lando gets his first taste of deliberate evil as he AGREES to getting shadow help to wipe out a Narn military base.
Would you push a button to kill 10,000 but it grants you any wish you want?
The Narn ambassador has a healthy appetite, more GoT vibes here.
Earth force has been taken over by a coup.
Season 1 thoughts and comments
1990s TV is very slow, not punchy, lots of filler episodes that add “depth” to characters. I think you could get the same story arc here with 5 tight episodes and cutting the filler.
Overall, the time traveling, the ancient race artifacts, the vorlon and the shadows, setup lots of very compelling intrigue.
Lots of dark forest vibes.
The Planet Machine below babylon 5, clearly it was designed for a race of aliens with 4 arms, who knows how long it has existed, the current and former care taker were not of this race. It’s quite a interesting mcguffin.
The pure energy evolution of the human psychic lays out a path for the evolution of species, they don’t care about the sandbox anymore after a point, but maybe they leave their toys for the next children?
No questions have been answered, but the appetite is still strong.
Season 2- Episode 2 - Revelations
Be seeing you! Prisoner callback (again! first time was checkoff)
Season 2 - Episode 3 - The Geometry of Shadows
I love the techno mages, not gods, but philosophers of technology. The perfect hackers
This concludes all the Babylon 5 videos created.
Even with all the other content, its hard to beat the shadow and vorlon war arc in the show. Seasons 1-4 are absolute peak science fiction.
I feel a little exhausted, but very up to date.
The reason nobody listens to Zathras is because Zathras leaves out important information…
A really good retrospective: https://youtu.be/7jUNB-o463w
- 1. Babylon 5: In the Beginning* (film, years: 2245-48)
- 2. Babylon 5: The Gathering (year: 2257)
- 3. Babylon 5: Seasons 1–4 (years: 2258-61)
- 4. Babylon 5: Thirdspace (film, year: 2261)
- 5. Babylon 5: Season 5 (year: 2262)
- 6. Babylon 5: The River of Souls (film, year: 2263)
- 7. Babylon 5: The Road Home (animated film, year: 2263)
- 8. Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers (film, year: 2265)
- 9. Babylon 5: A Call to Arms (film, year: 2266)
- 9. Crusade: Season 1 (year: 2267)
- 10. Babylon 5: The Lost Tales (year: 2271)
Season 1 - Episode 7 - The War Prayer
Earth First!
I think the coup wasn’t really well thought out… killing the ambassadors on the station was the signal to kill more ambassadors on earth? Thats… one way to do it.
What planet did y’all say you was from again?