• toomanypancakes@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Yeah, also why can children consent to any medical treatment? Not dying of treatable conditions is altering their body, and that’s literally bad. I’m so smart and compassionate, I’m basically literally a doctor.

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      They cant their parents can tho. Puberty blockers are not a life saving treatment they are physical only and thus just like plastic surgery shouldnt be given to kids. And no u cant argue they will kill themselves if they dont get treated there is plenty of peer reviewed papers proving that to be false.

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        2 months ago

        Hormones absolutely affect more than cosmetic things.

        I started hormone replacement therapy 2 months ago. I spent four decades before that wanting to commit suicide.

        I still mostly look like a man and my mental health has vastly improved. I’m less defensive less reactionary more open. I get a long better with everybody in my life.

        Including myself.

        Being congruent with your gender both chemically and socially helps people feel more joy happiness and self-acceptance.

        That is not cosmetic and you have no idea what you’re talking about.

        Like I said in an earlier comment you’re not a doctor. And you cite doctors that aren’t specialists in the field who have an agenda.

        Seriously mind your own business and let parents and doctors that actually understand this stuff take care of kids that need life-saving treatment.

        And while you’re at it maybe look up the study that was just done about how suicide rates in trans youth are 70% higher states deny health care to trans youth.

        In other words educate yourself before having an opinion about something you know nothing about.

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          People like this are so ridiculous. They really don’t understand the concept of not being comfortable in your own body to the point that you don’t even want to live because your family and society in general disapprove of you being who you really are.

          Which is ridiculous because I’m cis and it’s not hard for me at all to understand that being given gender-affirming care would be pretty fucking helpful for kids who feel that way.

          Or rather either they don’t understand it or they don’t care because it’s “wrong.”

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            2 months ago

            It’s transphobic garbage.

            Hormones are cosmetic, was their comment. This person does not believe in medicine, biology, or science. Only their transphobic garbage.

            When are mods going to start banning people for this stuff? It seriously kills kids. It’s like COVID misinformation.

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          2 months ago

          Now thats a bad faith argument. I usually get banned for calling people an idiot or is that only cos my opinions are controversial?

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            2 months ago

            I’m not arguing with you. Your opinion is just wrong and irrelevant. Not understanding a medical treatment and wanting it banned because it makes you uncomfortable makes you a small minded, bad person. I hope you take the time to either reevaluate your life or go away.

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                How was this banned for rule 1 and the comment i was replying to not. I called the guy a lier cos he said he didnt want an argumwnt while callibg me a small minded bad person. Can someone please explain how this not unequal application of rules.

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                  They weren’t lying. You’re spreading misinformation that’s killing children, which is bad. And continually refuse to engage with anything other than your preconceived opinions when literally everyone is disagreeing with you, which is small-minded.

                  Also, I’ll point out, you’re playing the victim here. While perpetuating rhetoric that’s literally killing children. A bit DARVO, imo. Definitely not good faith arguments. Can’t blame anyone for not wanting to engage with you.

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            No, a bad faith argument would be using one study and a handful of doctors that aren’t specialists in the area that agrees with you versus the hundreds of studies and thousands of doctors that specialize in the area that don’t.

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              His paper doesn’t even say what he wants it to say. It’s a super narrow finding that psychological care is still required along with blockers.

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              As it stands im the only one who has provided any peer reviewed papers to back my point. Said study alsi happens to be a meta review so it reviews all the other papers and assesses them.

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                I looked at your study, but all it showed was that there were no statistically significant side effects for puberty blockers, so what’s the problem?

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                Also, no, it looked at 9 specific studies, not “all” studies. It’s conclusions are basically “We need more studies.”