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      Article 1

      All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

      Article 2

      Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

      Article 3

      Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

      […]

      Article 10

      Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

      Article 11

      1. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

      […]

      Guess where this is coppied from …

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          One can hate the Russian invation without chanting “DEATH TO ALL RUSSIANS!!!”

          There is a difference between wishing death to all Russians and wishing death to all Russian invaders. One can and should help every Russian invader be killed or captured. They individually choose, every single day, to help kill Ukrainians defending their homes. Every Russian invader killed means less Ukrainians die.

          Donate to Ukraine and help them remove the invaders.

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              They can choose to walk west with a white flag above their head. They can choose to fight those who put them in Ukraine. Instead they choose, every single day, to help kill Ukrainians defending their homes.

              No, we must help Ukraine remove the invaders.

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      Even the worst human is still a human. You can’t blame a person for lamenting the loss of a human life without losing your own humanity, in my opinion. Empathy saves lives.

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        Don’t be so naive. “Empathy saves lives”? You’d say that out loud to one of the innumerable Russian “soldiers” responsible for those vile crimes as they tried to do the same to you? That’s what you’d tell your rapist/murderer in that moment of sheer panic and terror? Are you fucking serious?

        Oh. No? Hunh. Seems pretty easy to have such a rosy perspective when it’s so distant from your own safe little life. Go figure.

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        No, you can’t rape, torture, and murder without losing your own humanity. Humanizing monsters hurts the victims.

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          They are not monsters though, they are very human. Doing horrible shit is as human as eating or shitting. I think most people here would do the same thing if they were raised in similar conditions. Most people don’t even see (much less care enough to do something about) the injustices going on in their own society.

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            Most people don’t even see (much less care enough to do something about) the injustices going on in their own society.

            For fucks sake, what an incredibly disingenous whataboutism attempt.

            Also since you are on about rationalising the actions of Russian soldiers, this is an actual invasion of another country we are talking about. These people are actively participating, whether they wanted to or not. For everyone of them killed chances are innocent civilian Ukrainians will not get murdered by them, have their homes destroyed by them or have loved ones killed or injured by them. You know, the actual innocent victims of this completely unnecessary invasion. Your rationalisation goes both ways.

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              I don’t think that Im rationalizing, more like the opposite and saying that most people are similarly irrational, there’s no evil-gene that just they have.

              That said, if they take up arms and go to kill innocent people then they obvilusly need to be put down. Similarly to how a dog trained by a dog fighter might need to be put down even if it’s just a pawn in someone elses twisted game. So yes these russians have to be killed in self defence until they leave.

              All I’m saying is that i always find it a bit rich that people act as if they would always do the right thing in similar circumstance.

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            That’s ridiculous; there are millions of people raised in bad conditions who don’t do the same. Humans are inherently pro-social; original sin isn’t a thing. They are monsters.

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              I’m not saying that it’s especially bad conditions, more like indoctrinating conditions. It’s not like germany had very bad conditions when they started ww2 either.

              But if you don’t think it’s a problem with the society and culture then the only real common denominator is ethnicity. Which kind of means that ought to be genocided when russia eventually falls.

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      This is pushing it. Sympathy for russian combatants will not be tolerated here, but, calling for the mass annihilation of russians is on the opposite end of the spectrum. Be happy Ukranians are just a little bit safer today. But cheer? No. Too much.