• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    I don’t think the Democratic candidate mattered at all. Trump is a psychopath. Any sane adult should have beaten him. Harris wasn’t any different than Biden and he beat Trump. Something else happened. Misinformation, foreign interference, and disenfranchisement lost the election.

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      13 days ago

      I agree, but I also think the Democrats could have run a candidate that did matter. Harris was just another useless establishment clone.

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        13 days ago

        If they had done that, they would have lost just the same and people would be complaining that they didn’t run someone more mainstream.

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              11 days ago

              Sometimes you’re going to lose no matter what you do.

              Are you saying Donald Trump was unbeatable in 2024? Nothing Dems did would’ve mattered?

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                  11 days ago

                  Probably.

                  I always believe that a candidate of the genuine left, pushing things most people want and need — universal health care, breaking up giant corporations, enthusiastic tax increases for billionaires, complete medical and student debt forgiveness, patching the pathetic safety net that barely exists for the unemployed, the sick, the disabled, etc— would win by two touchdowns. But I don’t know who that candidate would’ve been in 2024, and the question is moot because Democrats would never nominate a leftist.

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                    10 days ago

                    As great as that candidate would be, they wouldn’t accomplish any of that. We need to move the house and senate to the left before any president like that would actually make a difference.

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              11 days ago

              Sometimes. Not this time. Harris didn’t come within a thousand miles of running a campaign that would support that.

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                  10 days ago

                  That’s why you have real primaries. I’d bet Wallz could have won at the top of the ticket. Any Democrat with a scrap of charisma and an anti-establishment vibe could have done it. It was Harris’s ties to Biden that did her in more than anything else.

                  • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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                    10 days ago

                    Did you watch the VP debate? Walz could never have pulled it off. Nobody could have, short of maybe someone like John Stewart. The people wanted lies, not the truth.