Tbf I don’t find this prospect unthinkable since some far-right parties in europe aren’t quite as aligned with american strategy as others.
For example Le Pen (who is almost certainly winning in 2028), the german AfD and Orban have dissented, in different measures, to the establishment’s position on ukraine and china. If a far-right party were to reach power in one of the big EU countries and they were expected to shift europe away from the US I don’t see why the americans WOULDN’T interfere.
I think it’s the other way around. Michael Hudson said back in the 1970s the people from the State Department already told him that they knew the challenge to US establishment in the future would come from the European left, not the right, so they spent decades infiltrating every soc dem and leftist party and promoted US-leaning politicians groomed under their wing.
They were never worried about the far right, nor should they be, because the European far right will never pose a real challenge to the US or capital. If you really want proof, look at Meloni’s Italy.
Ok but my point is you don’t look at JUST meloni to judge the willingness of the whole european far right to follow the US, Meloni and her party are fiercely atlanticist in a way that the 3 examples I mentioned aren’t, a hint at their difference is if they are in the ID or the ECR group in the euro parliament, ID parties “tend” to be “softer” on, say, russia and china but not always, and if one of these parties actually were willing to, for example, pull the plug on ukraine support if it came to power I don’t see why america wouldn’t act to keep that party from power. They didn’t need to do that with meloni because she’s always been a vocal supporter of american strategy.
I’m just saying this to complicate things a bit, I don’t think it’s certain at all that these EU-US skeptical far right parties would actually follow through on it, it’s sort of like asking whether trump would actually stop backing ukraine, can’t say for certain
Tbf I don’t find this prospect unthinkable since some far-right parties in europe aren’t quite as aligned with american strategy as others.
For example Le Pen (who is almost certainly winning in 2028), the german AfD and Orban have dissented, in different measures, to the establishment’s position on ukraine and china. If a far-right party were to reach power in one of the big EU countries and they were expected to shift europe away from the US I don’t see why the americans WOULDN’T interfere.
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I think it’s the other way around. Michael Hudson said back in the 1970s the people from the State Department already told him that they knew the challenge to US establishment in the future would come from the European left, not the right, so they spent decades infiltrating every soc dem and leftist party and promoted US-leaning politicians groomed under their wing.
They were never worried about the far right, nor should they be, because the European far right will never pose a real challenge to the US or capital. If you really want proof, look at Meloni’s Italy.
Ok but my point is you don’t look at JUST meloni to judge the willingness of the whole european far right to follow the US, Meloni and her party are fiercely atlanticist in a way that the 3 examples I mentioned aren’t, a hint at their difference is if they are in the ID or the ECR group in the euro parliament, ID parties “tend” to be “softer” on, say, russia and china but not always, and if one of these parties actually were willing to, for example, pull the plug on ukraine support if it came to power I don’t see why america wouldn’t act to keep that party from power. They didn’t need to do that with meloni because she’s always been a vocal supporter of american strategy.
I’m just saying this to complicate things a bit, I don’t think it’s certain at all that these EU-US skeptical far right parties would actually follow through on it, it’s sort of like asking whether trump would actually stop backing ukraine, can’t say for certain