• RedC@sh.itjust.works
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    Well they did a good job convincing the public that the person holding the gun isn’t responsible for what happens with said gun, considering the down votes. Happened last time I said he needs to be punished for what he did.

    Gun safety is only important if you’re not rich/famous/ an actor

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      Yeah, keanu reeves is a dick for pointing guns at everyone in John Wick. He should practice gun safety and always point the barrel down whenever he’s doing a scene. /s

      Its sort of absurd to expect baldwin to not trust his weapon specialist, aside from the fact that fucking with blanks after a “professional” has loaded the weapon can and will result in death regardless of what happened in this situation.

      Just tell us you hate guns and are ignorant of on-set heirarchy.

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        Alec wasn’t filming at the time. Keanu went through actual training to handle firearms on screen which I think should be the minimum. The fact that Keanu made 4 movies in that series without killing anyone proves it can be done safely. In the circumstances of filming I would be unreasonable to expect every one of the 4 rules to be followed at all times, but breaking every single one of those rules all at once should not happen. The bare minimum that Alec can and should’ve done is inspect the gun to see if it’s loaded, and that it’s loaded with “safe” rounds. I mean that’s the first thing I do!

        Also I own several guns, try not to make assumptions.

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          You can own several guns. But have you worked on any films?

          There is a long list of things that should not have happened on that set. But I don’t think Alec should have been charged. His role of producer has little to do with that too, unless he was specifically involved in the hiring and firing of employees. It’s not like he was the sole producer. Those responsibilities weren’t his.

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          The bare minimum that Alec can and should’ve done is inspect the gun to see if it’s loaded, and that it’s loaded with “safe” rounds. I mean that’s the first thing I do!

          It really isn’t, though.

          Insurance doesn’t allow actors to adjust weaponry on set.

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            Cool thing is that he wasn’t just an actor on set, he was a producer as well. Which entails more responsibility.

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              Considering she was head armorer and assistant armorer in other movies, im not sure why he would think she wasnt a qualified individual.

              Its not like he hired a random person on the street.

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              On a movie set, yes.

              The people who are licensed and insured to ensure gun safety are the ones responsible for it.

              Im not sure why you’re hellbent on making it seem like all of the rules for gun safety on set werent followed.

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                  Quick hypothetical.

                  If every actor on set messed with the blanks they were given do you think there would be more gun related deaths on the set of a movie, or less?

                  Keep in mind there have only been two deaths since 1993, brandon lee and this incident.

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          What are you even talking about? You seriously think people in movies shouldn’t be pointing guns at each other for a scene? How many westerns have been made with no problems whatsoever? This was the fault of an incompotent armoror on set.

          “Sorry director, I can’t point a gun at someone for this scene cuz gun safety is more important.” Lol.

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              Gun safety 101 is you never, under any circumstances, point your gun at something you don’t intend to kill. So yes, you are absolutely saying that actors shouldn’t be pointing guns at other actors.

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                  How could that possibly be a flex? If this rule was followed movies wouldn’t have guns. If this is what you are arguing then that’s fine. But if guns are in movies, they will be pointed at other humans.

                  Also, people in this same thread have told you why untrained actors should NOT be fiddling with guns. You’d rather be ignorant and ignore everyone for some strange reason.

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              You said that my man. Where on earth did you learn that gun safety 101 is “don’t kill anyone”? Lol.

              Gun safety 101 is don’t point one at something unless you intend to shoot it.

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          The rules that have been put into place after the death of brandon lee which have resulted in the deaths of only 2 people since 1993.

          Those rules.

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              Let’s say i hired someone to build a house for me.

              The house ostensibly looks fine and seems sturdy.

              I invite my friends over, and they come inside the house.

              I walk outside to move some trash and shut the door.

              Shutting the door causes the house to collapse, killing everyone inside.

              Am i responsible for my friends deaths? I did kill them by knocking down my house after all.

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        No major gun incidents for decades in the film industry! Since Brendon lee. Alec made the first major fuckup since then and killed someone with a live round and Noone sees anything wrong with that.

        I’m not saying other people didn’t fuck up and deserve punishment aka the armorer, but Alec also deserves to answer for it