China isn’t the biggest emitter per capita. Why would you suddenly shift the goalposts between sentences?
Why do you have a problem with multiple facts? It is rather simple: People look at China, because it is the largest emitter in the world. Then you claimed that countries like India and Indonesia are dirtier then China, which is looking at emissions per capita, just plain and simply wrong.
The big difference being that Chinese emissions per capita have finally started falling,
Again problems with facts. China has had a slight growth in emissions this year and the population is falling. There have been some months and quarters with emissions dropping, but it is still probably stable.
Even when you look at consumption China is by far the largest emitter in the world. In 2022 the OECDs combined emissions were only 30% higher then those of China, when looking at consumption. When you look at per capita emissions, those are close to EU level and the data is from 2022, so it might have crossed by now.
Also China had insane emissions growth for decades from a low level due to producing for the West. Interesting that you seem to want to deny countries like India and Indonesia that opportunity. The main reason production is leaving China is high cost, due to high wages.
As a result of the strong capacity growth – and despite poor wind conditions – solar and wind covered 52% of electricity demand growth in the first half of 2024 and 71% since March. (The fall in wind speeds can be seen from NASA MERRA-2 data averaged for all of China.)
Indeed, the increase in power generation from solar and wind reported by the National Energy Administration in the first half of the year, at 171 terawatt hours (TWh), exceeded the UK’s total electricity supply of 160TWh in the first half of 2023.
Rapid demand growth in January–February, at 11%, had outpaced even the clean energy additions. But combined with a rebound in hydropower generation, the increase in non-fossil electricity supply exceeded power demand growth in the March to June period.
The population is functionally flat. The rapid onboarding of green energy has displaced the need for new fossil fuel sources and depressed carbon emissions for the first time since the pandemic.
Also China had insane emissions growth for decades
China had normal, if not below average, emissions growth for decades. Their reliance on hydro power and mass transit has kept them well below the western industrial average.
The main reason production is leaving China is high cost
The costs are coming in the form of tariffs and other trade restrictions placed by an increasingly trade-hostile US federal government. Real cost of manufacturing in the Chinese economy continues to fall, as new advanced infrastructure reduce the material and energy costs of per-unit production.
What the other Pacific Rim countries have that China lacks is a scorched earth commitment to industrial expansion. They’re destroying their local ecology and sacrificing the quality of life of their native residents to fuel a short term burst of foreign investment. But it can’t last.
Why do you have a problem with multiple facts? It is rather simple: People look at China, because it is the largest emitter in the world. Then you claimed that countries like India and Indonesia are dirtier then China, which is looking at emissions per capita, just plain and simply wrong.
Again problems with facts. China has had a slight growth in emissions this year and the population is falling. There have been some months and quarters with emissions dropping, but it is still probably stable.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-off-track-emissions-goals-energy-demand-offsets-renewables-push-2024-11-27/
Even when you look at consumption China is by far the largest emitter in the world. In 2022 the OECDs combined emissions were only 30% higher then those of China, when looking at consumption. When you look at per capita emissions, those are close to EU level and the data is from 2022, so it might have crossed by now.
https://ourworldindata.org/consumption-based-co2
Also China had insane emissions growth for decades from a low level due to producing for the West. Interesting that you seem to want to deny countries like India and Indonesia that opportunity. The main reason production is leaving China is high cost, due to high wages.
Comparing gross to per-capita is deliberately misleading, not factual.
The population is functionally flat. The rapid onboarding of green energy has displaced the need for new fossil fuel sources and depressed carbon emissions for the first time since the pandemic.
China had normal, if not below average, emissions growth for decades. Their reliance on hydro power and mass transit has kept them well below the western industrial average.
The costs are coming in the form of tariffs and other trade restrictions placed by an increasingly trade-hostile US federal government. Real cost of manufacturing in the Chinese economy continues to fall, as new advanced infrastructure reduce the material and energy costs of per-unit production.
What the other Pacific Rim countries have that China lacks is a scorched earth commitment to industrial expansion. They’re destroying their local ecology and sacrificing the quality of life of their native residents to fuel a short term burst of foreign investment. But it can’t last.