Can Trump’s incoming administration really be said to stand “for the little guys” when it’s full of millionaires and billionaires?
CEOs having a “who can suck off Trump best” contest?
This is how it’s feeling like, last few weeks. I’ll somehow need to justify keeping my proton plan
What Trump really means here is “big tech has run amok they need to kiss my ring first and then they can do whatever the fuck they like”. He has identified big tech companies as a key component to cement his future dictatorship and he is not wrong.
Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.
Not wrong there…
Yeah, that’s true. But going on to say ‘therefore support Trump’ is … not good.
I think it’s unwise for Proton to try to support any political party. Agreeing or disagreeing with decisions and policies is fair and good; but to say “this is the party who supports the little guy” is a bullshit and unnecessarily divisive.
For my fellow German readers: An affordable green alternative to Proton hosted in Berlin is Posteo. https://posteo.de/ 1€ / month to have your mail hosted by a non-shitty company is a small price.
Why are there no reports and outrage over the pick of Gail Slater? Doesn’t she fit the standard outrage mold? She does seem to be pretty vehemetly anti-big tech. She has driven monopoly cases against VISA, Google and Apple. Surprisingly sober choice as assistant attorney general.
If this is suppose to be “Full MAGA”, then i don’t understand where you draw lines.
This is unbelievably disappointing. Just canceled my annual membership (which was set to renew in ~2 weeks).
Looks like I’ll be moving to Tuta tomorrow.
Okay I’m researching tuta now … I have a 2 year sub already though. Was literally in the process of moving from Gmail. Self hosted is tough for me. I guess this is the new normal. Milkshake duck…
Fuck Proton than.
What’s a good alternative I can use?
God damnit. I just swotched to Proton this week
Riseup and Disroot are run by collectives, Tuta uses a similar business model to Proton, Mailbox.org + Guard looks decent as well and more open than either Proton or Tuta
It seems the guy keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself. Sigh…
By the “little guys” he means himself.
By himself he means corporate CEOs.
Well, if he means tech companies that generally get smothered by unfair competition due to tech monopolies, as I believe he does, he is right to refer to them as the little guy.
Also let’s not forget that he is the tech CEO of a company which offers great products that don’t harm users, that raised tons of money for other nonprofits in the privacy space and that ceded control to a nonprofit to ensure they stay consistent with those values. He is for sure not a regular Joe, but comparing him to a regular corporate CEO is disinformation IMHO.
I migrated my custom domains to Tuta and canceled my Proton subscription as a result of all of this.
And Proton had fucking better give me a prorated refund.
I need to do this. I hope I can get my money back but they can choke on it if not I guess.
Way different stance than 8 years ago.
I don’t think it’s way different. Yeah he’s not praising Trump here, but he’s certainly not taking a stance against him either, more trying to calm down worried people about Trump being in control now.
I checked archive and it wasn’t saved to the wayback machine so I added it in case proton deletes it. https://web.archive.org/web/20250115163936/https://proton.me/blog/trump-control-nsa-privacy
That’s a nice one to rub Andy’s nose in. I’ll put that one in my cancellation note.
Fucking pathetic
Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell
Mullvad then I guess?
One of my favourite things about using an email relay is how easy it was to change email addresses. Unfortunately I was changing to Proton. Fortunately I was using my own domain! Unfortunately I pre-paid 2 years.
Same! And there’s not a good email alternative that’s as popular
Posteo?
Tuta is decent. I have been using them for a long time every since proton tried gas-lighting everyone about javascript based browser interface being secure for e2ee.
I just switched to purelymail and I am so far pretty happy with it. Plus its way cheaper.
How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?
What a way to alienate your entire customer base
Thankfully privacy is not (yet) a left/right issue. Plenty of rightwingers that also care about privacy and plenty of leftwingers that don’t.
Privacy is a human rights issue. Right now, it’s a fight of corporations vs the people. Unfortunately most corporations are great at lobbying against the people, and republicans are quite known for already violating human rights.
What a way to alienate your entire customer base
You really think the entire customer base cares about this?
Sure, if we want to talk details, not everyone. But in a service that’s meant for privacy, a fundamentally left-leaning topic, then yea it’d piss off more people than the few supporters
Like best case some people will just think you’re stupid, worst case you lose out on long time paid customers for literally no benefit
You’re getting downvoted but I know a handful of privacy minded tech guys who would support Proton even more because of this. I also know quite a few people who share his perspective. And yeah propaganda is definitely in the mix, but maybe just maybe the Democrat party should own some of this themselves.
You’re getting downvoted
oh no
