Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, a sign of the president’s strength in uniting his party to have the backing of one of its most liberal members

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    1 year ago

    What exactly has Biden done wrong? He may not be as crazy left wing as you’d prefer, but really I don’t see why so many on the left are saying he’s so bad

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      Although I think Biden has overall done a good job I am disappointed that they’re running someone who is 80 years old. I would also like to see a general shift to the left, but at the same time I realize that the increased political division in the US makes this unlikely in the near term.

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        Giving up the incumbent advantage at a time like this is short sighted at best, and destructive and dangerous at worst.

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          People always have some reason ready to roll out when telling you to settle for some shitty candidate you don’t really like. I’m done with it. I compromised on Joe Biden to save America from Trump. I compromised in every election for my entire adult life. Now I’m voting for people I actually like. If the US is collectively dumb enough to go back to the GOP then we deserve the consequences of that choice.

          You can call that selfish if you want but I’ve been waiting 35 years for the compromise candidate to be the one from my camp and there’s always a bunch of armchair poly-sci experts coming out of the woodwork to explain why that would be irresponsible in the current political climate. Well too bad, I’m not voting for the geriatric anymore.

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            I really don’t understand this attitude after how far the entire country backslide under Trump after 2016.

            Like, I get it, I felt the same way in 2016 and pissed away my vote, but you’ve got to realize how counter productive this is after how much more fucked everything got in four years right? Assuming you aren’t leaving the country, you do have to live with the consequences of another Trump presidency and further erosion of your rights.

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            Must be nice to be a wealthy, single, white man who knows he won’t suffer under a Trump admin.

            Fuck the rest of the country, right? And our overseas allies.

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              Like I said, if America is collectively dumb enough to vote Republicans into power after everything that’s happened then another 4 years of a boring Democrat isn’t going to fix that problem. If we’re headed for some sort of collapse I’d rather deal with that now rather than later. Call that what you like but it’s not my way of doing things that got us in this mess in the first place so you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t put much stock in your “keep doing the same things and hope something magically changes” approach.

              I personally believe someone in the Bernie Sanders mold has a better chance of pulling in moderate voters than a Joe Biden does.

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                I’m sorry but the idea that Bernie Sanders brings in moderate voters is obliterated by the fact that he gets blown out in primaries because of moderate voters

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                  I don’t think it’s correct to assume politics is a sliding scale from left to right, and failing to appeal to democratic primary voters is a certainty of failure in a general election. I would paint democratic primary voters as very in favor of the institutions and systems of this country, and I don’t think republican votes are fans of either.

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                    They’re most assuredly not fans of socialism, which is what they view progressives as espousing.

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              Thanks for the pointless reply. Next time just downvote and spare people from having to read “I disagree with you” but in dumber form.

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      This comment will stay in the negatives, but anyone who is looking at this objectively knows you’re correct. They just don’t like it.

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        It’s getting downvoted for the “crazy left wing” part, not the “what has Biden done wrong” part.

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      Because he’s ancient. He’s a half century older than the majority of the voting population.

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        Why is this a bad thing, specifically? Like, articulate reasons that this is bad.

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          Because he isn’t the one that’s going to have to living in and running the world in another 20 years or fewer.

          Because there are plenty of other choices that better represent the current and future population.

          Because he was alive during a time that is so drastically different than the current world.

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            I don’t want a representative of the population. I want someone competent who can accomplish policy objectives I share.

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                I don’t understand what you mean. The rest of the population can make the same choice in the same contest

                That’s what voting is.

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                  Right. And when the rest of everyone votes with the same exact mentality, what’s the result?

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          To say the quiet part out loud, he simply isn’t charismatic enough to hold the President position. Common people don’t feel their future to be secure under his leadership. Look at GOP’s candidates meanwhile (DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Trump) - they are all populist if not anything else.

          And like it or not, this perception matters. I can guarantee he’ll recieve less votes this time (compared to last year, he can still marginally win simply because of how unpopular the Right has become).

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            Populists should be fought because populism is a cancer. Biden is exceptionally charismatic, in my view. Significantly more so than most Presidential candidates not named Obama or Clinton.

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              Populism alone isn’t bad. Sometimes, it’s the only way to get a perspective or idea out there, and make it not seem like a taboo anymore. And some ideas out there are worth supporting.

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                  Do you have any evidence that populism is inherently bad? Yes or no? Incidents can be easily rebuked with incidents where populism has allowed progress or improvement into quality of living. So, if incidents is all you have, simply say no.

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                    Yes I do. Every populist politician in human history.

                    You’re welcome.

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              Biden is exceptionally charismatic, in my view

              I’m sorry, but that’s a delusional take. A fricking potato has more charisma than Biden.

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      He ran on getting kids out of cages and there is still a giant open-air prison for refugees on the border. He busted the railroad union. Those are two pretty big issues for the left. He’s further right than Obama, and probably futher right than Nixon, if you compare their platforms. Fighting fascism by moving further right is a really bad way to fight fascism.

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      Biden has been great. The most transformative policies in 80 years. Great for the world.

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          Being able to see through the RW/Kremlin propaganda fog does not make me a “shill bot.” I suppose by your metrics, AOC is also a “shill bot” for supporting Joe Biden? He’s the first in a LONG WHILE to promote any kind of true global unity on important issues. Not perfect, but DAMNED good.

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            Yes. AOC is controlled opposition at best. Biden’s only redeeming quality is that he’s not Trump.

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      I didn’t vote for Mr. Crime Bill '93 last time, and I certainly won’t be voting for the segregationist eulogizer the next time around; but y’know, feel free to shill for Jim Crow Joe to your heart’s content.

      “The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but they at least don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the “smiling” fox.”

      – Malik el-Shabazz