• ditty@lemm.ee
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    Ye is a f***ing clown. A misogynistic, racist, Nazi, homophobic, ableist, sexual abuser who fell off almost 10 years ago now. I am so ashamed I used to love his music.

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      Don’t worry, you can swear on the internet. At least here, you can’t do that on TikTok or Youtube

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      I still remember downloading The College Dropout when it released and loving it so much I had to share it with my friends. His whole album run up to Yeezus was great. But yeah the dude’s been mentally ill for awhile now. Haven’t listened to anything from him for a long, long time now.

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        Pablo had some good tracks but it was the beginning of his drop off in quality for sure

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      Art is one of those difficult subjects. As long as you’re not financially supporting them anymore (including with streaming) there’s no harm in having a relationship with a track that came from someone who had a downfall. I still listen to the Thriller album sometimes, and though it is always freighted with the context of what came later, I am able to separate the art from the artist enough to still enjoy the thing in itself.

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        Tell that to people that claim to be allies with trans people, yet can’t help but trip over themselves to hand Joanne money for any and all HP merch.

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        I still listen to the Thriller album sometimes, and though it is always freighted with the context of what came later

        I’m very much aware of the controversy around MJ, but in the end he was cleared on all the charges. There’s obviously a ton of things which are problematic, to say the least, but in my personal opinion he was a victim of the system too. There’s absolutely things to condem him for, but I don’t think he was a bad person in the end. Just someone who really needed some help which wasn’t there. Britney Spears would be a better comparison than Kanye.

        And there’s quite a big gap between being a problematic human being who created (ambiguously) some of the best art around and someone who straight up wants to make a statement of being a bigger natzi than Elon.

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          You’re right, it was a stretch to generalize between the two. I’m just keen on the point of separating the art from the artist in the context of everything being streamed for money. It’s fine to listen to any old shit that used to hold uncomplicated joy for you, as long as it’s a local copy.

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      Tbf hes in some pretty good songs. I dont like his music but you cant really avoid listening to him completely. Also if someone likes his music i dont care, just dont like him as a person.

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      “Nooo! He’s just bipolar!” Some may say, but he’s actually really stupid.

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        I heard that when he would start to talk to Kim he would start singing halfway through the convo. That reminds my of my one friend whose suffering from schizophrenia.

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          Likely internalized bigotry too. Considering when we hear about his mental health falling off it’s always in this context of him claiming to be a Nazi.

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        Apparently he got a second diagnosis and he’s not bipolar but on the spectrum, according to himself.

        Probably figured that was a better cover for being a nazi, after Elon’s Sieg Heil

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          So now he’s just a stupid and slightly bipolar Nazi? Is that an “improvement” in his book?

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      being a nazi is bad for business

      I’m sorry, but have you seen the world lately? What on earth has led you to believe this? Nazism is in its highest demand ever, so much so that even some Jews are onboard and are giving Trump literal golden gifts to celebrate ethnic cleansing. The richest man in history just proudly threw up a nazi salute for the world to see as he became the defacto POTUS.

      The soul-crushing truth is that being a nazi is the best business decision one can make right now. I hate it, and I wish something could be done about it.

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      Is it bad for business these days? Tesla still worth a shit tone of money and he fucking saluted on national television.

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        Look at what’s happening to Tesla sales in Europe.

        Outside the States, yes it very much is.

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          Sales don’t matter to him, stock price does, and its going up.

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              Tesla is valued more than every other car company combined, but they sell a fraction of vehicles. You tell me what drives the stock price, it’s sure as shit not sales.

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                No they’re not, Tesla has a market cap of 1.13 trillion, and don’t just make vehicles, BYD alone is worth 776 billion. Toyota is around 250 billion.

                They’re big, but not “half the automotive industry” big.