I see big tobacco just fine, and consumers didn’t hit big tobacco, the US government did by stepping on falsified findings of the ills of 2nd hand smoke. No move was made against tobacco till the US signed trade agreements with China to allow Big Tobacco to sell in the world’s #1 smoking market. Look back at that date, then follow stock market prices of BT after the date. PM and RJR diversified, even put a foot into Big Pharma taking up their market.
Still, when you sum up all control substances including psychotropic recipied substances, the grand total hasn’t changed a bit. The quality of the market changed, the quantity didn’t. The poor kept smoking the rich just got Prozac
I see big tobacco just fine, and consumers didn’t hit big tobacco, the US government did by stepping on falsified findings of the ills of 2nd hand smoke.
I see big tobacco just fine, and consumers didn’t hit big tobacco, the US government did by stepping on falsified findings of the ills of 2nd hand smoke.
What do you mean “falsified findings?”
There is no evidence today of the ills of 2nd hand smoke, so how did this support back then came about the 2nd hand smoke is just as dangerous?
There is so much false rhetoric and propaganda in addictive substances it is pathetic. Just search around on medical centers treating addictions, look for nicotine, being accused for cancer, heart disease … there has never been any evidence that other than a psychological addiction that nicotine alone causes any harm. If you suffer from hypertension and have weak vessels, yes you can die from it, but you can die from coffee or just getting scared.
How the fuck could second hand smoke be safe if first hand smoke isn’t? Isn’t smoke inherently unsafe to breathe? Even wood fire smoke can cause cancer, you aren’t supposed to breathe smoke!
you go learn science and research methodology then go make up your own stuff, till then just research sci.journals on what they deduced.
Most urban street air is much more toxic and dangerous than inhaling 2nd hand smoke in a bar
Nicotine, a harmless substance, liquefies in such a high temperature that it can hardly make it through the filter and into your lips in gaseous form, so people saying you are spitting nicotine by breathing smoke are full of crap and illusions (I don’t see religion being banned for that).
Carbon monoxide? Carbon particles and biproducts of burning carbo-hydrates, as long as our lives are surrounded by vehicles the exhaling of smoke from a smoker’s mouth is negligible.
But it stinks! Aaa… but you smell like industrial aromatics, perfumes, deodorants, detergents … working on a Caterpillar bulldozer stinks but I don’t hear anyone banning them
Most urban street air is much more toxic and dangerous than inhaling 2nd hand smoke in a bar
That’s an indictment of our shitty society with its shitty air quality, not an absolution for second hand smoke. We should eliminate both.
But it stinks! Aaa… but you smell like industrial aromatics, perfumes, deodorants, detergents … working on a Caterpillar bulldozer stinks but I don’t hear anyone banning them
Well I don’t see Caterpillar bulldozers inside bars either 🙃
Again, this is an indictment of our shitty society. We should be banning dirty engines too - electric motors can achieve the same level of torque (and greater!) without pumping out cancer causing pollutants that stink up our world.
All smoke is dangerous. We should reduce it as much as possible, from all sources.
Again, this is an indictment of our shitty society. We should be banning dirty engines too - electric motors can achieve the same level of torque (and greater!) without pumping out cancer causing pollutants that stink up our world.
Ignorance doesn’t clean the air, with the average country still making electric power and transmitting it in long distances in the most inefficient and expensive ways, 86% is produced by burning fossil fuels, and this doesn’t include the risk of nuclear power, although clean till you deal with storing depleted uranium. Urban yuppies have been sold the illusion their electric car doesn’t pollute, a 60s Rambler running still doesn’t pollute, a 5y old electric vehicle in the dumpsite near you will fill the area with toxins. Electricity produced, transmitted, used for charging at less than 40% efficiency, pollutes more than a 60s gas-gassler.
But electric, thermoplastics, vehicle AND OIL/COAL industries need to sell a myth to the urban yuppie to accessorize in something “different” that will stick out and make them feel superior.
The upcoming huge environmental hazzard is lack of recycling of useless electric vehicles and their batteries, the enormous amount of excess electricity produced to cover transportation with electricity, and the economic crisis that will result from this irresponsible madness governments are allowing to take place.
We should ban private car ownership, no question. That would do a hell of a lot to improve air quality. People can take a train, ride a bike, or work remotely.
Of course we do. See Big Tobacco.
I see big tobacco just fine, and consumers didn’t hit big tobacco, the US government did by stepping on falsified findings of the ills of 2nd hand smoke. No move was made against tobacco till the US signed trade agreements with China to allow Big Tobacco to sell in the world’s #1 smoking market. Look back at that date, then follow stock market prices of BT after the date. PM and RJR diversified, even put a foot into Big Pharma taking up their market.
Still, when you sum up all control substances including psychotropic recipied substances, the grand total hasn’t changed a bit. The quality of the market changed, the quantity didn’t. The poor kept smoking the rich just got Prozac
What do you mean “falsified findings?”
There is no evidence today of the ills of 2nd hand smoke, so how did this support back then came about the 2nd hand smoke is just as dangerous?
There is so much false rhetoric and propaganda in addictive substances it is pathetic. Just search around on medical centers treating addictions, look for nicotine, being accused for cancer, heart disease … there has never been any evidence that other than a psychological addiction that nicotine alone causes any harm. If you suffer from hypertension and have weak vessels, yes you can die from it, but you can die from coffee or just getting scared.
How the fuck could second hand smoke be safe if first hand smoke isn’t? Isn’t smoke inherently unsafe to breathe? Even wood fire smoke can cause cancer, you aren’t supposed to breathe smoke!
you go learn science and research methodology then go make up your own stuff, till then just research sci.journals on what they deduced. Most urban street air is much more toxic and dangerous than inhaling 2nd hand smoke in a bar
Nicotine, a harmless substance, liquefies in such a high temperature that it can hardly make it through the filter and into your lips in gaseous form, so people saying you are spitting nicotine by breathing smoke are full of crap and illusions (I don’t see religion being banned for that).
Carbon monoxide? Carbon particles and biproducts of burning carbo-hydrates, as long as our lives are surrounded by vehicles the exhaling of smoke from a smoker’s mouth is negligible.
But it stinks! Aaa… but you smell like industrial aromatics, perfumes, deodorants, detergents … working on a Caterpillar bulldozer stinks but I don’t hear anyone banning them
That’s an indictment of our shitty society with its shitty air quality, not an absolution for second hand smoke. We should eliminate both.
Well I don’t see Caterpillar bulldozers inside bars either 🙃
Again, this is an indictment of our shitty society. We should be banning dirty engines too - electric motors can achieve the same level of torque (and greater!) without pumping out cancer causing pollutants that stink up our world.
All smoke is dangerous. We should reduce it as much as possible, from all sources.
Ignorance doesn’t clean the air, with the average country still making electric power and transmitting it in long distances in the most inefficient and expensive ways, 86% is produced by burning fossil fuels, and this doesn’t include the risk of nuclear power, although clean till you deal with storing depleted uranium. Urban yuppies have been sold the illusion their electric car doesn’t pollute, a 60s Rambler running still doesn’t pollute, a 5y old electric vehicle in the dumpsite near you will fill the area with toxins. Electricity produced, transmitted, used for charging at less than 40% efficiency, pollutes more than a 60s gas-gassler.
But electric, thermoplastics, vehicle AND OIL/COAL industries need to sell a myth to the urban yuppie to accessorize in something “different” that will stick out and make them feel superior. The upcoming huge environmental hazzard is lack of recycling of useless electric vehicles and their batteries, the enormous amount of excess electricity produced to cover transportation with electricity, and the economic crisis that will result from this irresponsible madness governments are allowing to take place.
We should ban private car ownership, no question. That would do a hell of a lot to improve air quality. People can take a train, ride a bike, or work remotely.
We’re still going to need bulldozers, though.