No example of a “Russian bot” is in sight, and the remainder of your reasoning boils down to “These users are bots because there’s no other reason for them not to be” (even though we know the actual reason is that they disagree with the State Department-sanctioned “opinion” of yours).
the blind propaganda is all the messages framing Zelensky as the cause of Ukraine’s destruction while willfully ignoring Russia’s huge involvement, or comments trying to imply he is hated by most Ukrainians
so blind propaganda here is just giving Zelensky a bad rap, which gives off a bad vibe. Why entertain and favor this vibes-based performative analysis over understanding the reality of the situation?
I’m not sure why you are misconstruing my message, I said explicitly that criticising Zelenksy is not propaganda. Once again, propaganda is when you blatantly ignore reality in an attempt to give Zelenksy (or anyone) a “bad rap”.
Implying that Zelenksy has little support from Ukrainians by claiming he will be hung by his countrymen is blatantly ignoring the statistical truth that a good majority of Ukrainians support him.
Stating that Zelenksy is the sole reason for Ukraine’s destruction is blatantly ignoring the historical truth that Russia invaded Ukraine.
thankfully, I don’t have to say much as other users have contributed a lot more in on this subject. It shouldn’t be hard to find out how your opinions are vibes-based.:
Implying that Zelenksy has little support from Ukrainians by claiming he will be hung by his countrymen
No, he will be hung by the banderites and ultra nationalists regardless of how popular he is.
And even then, his popularity depends on the war going well, which it is not, so he will become much less popular at the end especially if he makes a bad deal (which the us will force on him).
No example of a “Russian bot” is in sight, and the remainder of your reasoning boils down to “These users are bots because there’s no other reason for them not to be” (even though we know the actual reason is that they disagree with the State Department-sanctioned “opinion” of yours).
so blind propaganda here is just giving Zelensky a bad rap, which gives off a bad vibe. Why entertain and favor this vibes-based performative analysis over understanding the reality of the situation?
I’m not sure why you are misconstruing my message, I said explicitly that criticising Zelenksy is not propaganda. Once again, propaganda is when you blatantly ignore reality in an attempt to give Zelenksy (or anyone) a “bad rap”.
Implying that Zelenksy has little support from Ukrainians by claiming he will be hung by his countrymen is blatantly ignoring the statistical truth that a good majority of Ukrainians support him.
Stating that Zelenksy is the sole reason for Ukraine’s destruction is blatantly ignoring the historical truth that Russia invaded Ukraine.
Please explain to me how these are “vibe based”
thankfully, I don’t have to say much as other users have contributed a lot more in on this subject. It shouldn’t be hard to find out how your opinions are vibes-based.:
https://lemmy.ml/post/15038153/10689923
https://lemmy.ml/post/15038153/10685025
This is factually correct, you are right for once. There were numerous other factors into play that helped perpetuate this senseless destruction which warrants a nuanced discussion, namely the $$$ factor: Ukraine sits on trillions worth of minerals. US politicians want them.
No, he will be hung by the banderites and ultra nationalists regardless of how popular he is.
And even then, his popularity depends on the war going well, which it is not, so he will become much less popular at the end especially if he makes a bad deal (which the us will force on him).