I disagree. The hunger for chips, energy and water only got so big because venture capital decided to invest big in AI corporations. If we had another approach to ressource allocation we could slow down the rapid advancement and with it the ressource consumption.
This would also mean that there would time to discuss ethical/philosophical questions of AI and AI usage.
So you’re argument is that under communism we’d have less ai and it would be developed slower? Not exactly saying ai is a good thing there, and it doesn’t really cover the inherent issues related to it’s existence.
Yes and no. Under communism, we would be able to have less AI and it would be developed slower.
My statement was incomplete, AI is not just an economic venture, the big players (maily The US and China) catched on about its massive potential for informational warfare and control over their population.
As long as there’s states fighting over resources and power, any technology that can be utilized to get an edge over you enemies, not just AI, can and will be pushed forward, damn the consequences. Plus if you see capitalism as an entity itself, you could also argue that it’s doing this for its own survival.
Communism is not the only vision of a stateless society spanning the globe, but one whose thoughts and ideas have been well established.
You point is that AI has inherent issues, just by existing. You are correct. But I believe if we limit the application of AI to non-military uses, if we decouple it from power struggles, its benefits may outweigh its undeniable cost.
More of people would actually share their training data instead of everyone needing to train the same thing in case they found some gold mine advantage over other companies so they must not share anything.
I disagree. The hunger for chips, energy and water only got so big because venture capital decided to invest big in AI corporations. If we had another approach to ressource allocation we could slow down the rapid advancement and with it the ressource consumption.
This would also mean that there would time to discuss ethical/philosophical questions of AI and AI usage.
So you’re argument is that under communism we’d have less ai and it would be developed slower? Not exactly saying ai is a good thing there, and it doesn’t really cover the inherent issues related to it’s existence.
Yes and no. Under communism, we would be able to have less AI and it would be developed slower.
My statement was incomplete, AI is not just an economic venture, the big players (maily The US and China) catched on about its massive potential for informational warfare and control over their population.
As long as there’s states fighting over resources and power, any technology that can be utilized to get an edge over you enemies, not just AI, can and will be pushed forward, damn the consequences. Plus if you see capitalism as an entity itself, you could also argue that it’s doing this for its own survival.
Communism is not the only vision of a stateless society spanning the globe, but one whose thoughts and ideas have been well established.
You point is that AI has inherent issues, just by existing. You are correct. But I believe if we limit the application of AI to non-military uses, if we decouple it from power struggles, its benefits may outweigh its undeniable cost.
That’s the best response and reasoning I’ve read in this whole conversation
More of people would actually share their training data instead of everyone needing to train the same thing in case they found some gold mine advantage over other companies so they must not share anything.