Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney said that China is one of the largest threats with respect to foreign interference in Canada and is an emerging threat in the Arctic.
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Asked to elaborate at a news conference in Niagara Falls on Friday, Carney said Canada has to counter Chinese foreign interference threats. He also criticized China for being a partner with Russia in the war with Ukraine and said it is a threat to broader Asia and Taiwan in particular.
Carney said China is the biggest threat “from a geopolitical sense.” “We’re taking action to address,” he added.
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The entire mess between the Western world and China goes all the way back to when the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church and the Pope in Rome (Roman Emperor) forbade the Chinese to honor their ancestors, in the 17’th century (Qing Dynasty). The Jesuits made good infiltration into the Chinese culture, traveling along the Silk Road, in the early 17’th century, bringing knowledge and scientific discovery to the Chinese. Since the Jesuits predominantly focused on God Himself as a universal deity (not the Pope) there was some acceptance by the Chinese peoples to this socialist religion full of compassion, humility, and humanity. On the other hand, when the Pope and the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church got involved, everything switched from worship of God to fielty to the Pope. , The Pope insisted that the only venue for a Catholic, and thus ‘the people’, to seek solace, comfort, moral guidance, and forgiveness was through him (the Pope). The Chinese had a many-thousand-year tradition of seeking moral guidance, comfort, and personal direction from their ancestors. This fit in well with the Jesuit teachings, but was antithetical to the Pope’s need for personal power and domination. There could only be one master over the soul, and that was the Pope. Therefore, the Pope forbade this practice. The Chinese were not to honor their ancestors, but were to honor the Pope instead. Only through the Pope could there be salvation. Honoring one’s ancestors was therefore heretical and blasphemy.
The Chinese, of course, were very resentful that a foreigner, living in a foreign land, who had absolutely no connection to Chinese culture, could tell the Chinese whom they could honor and in what fashion, and so in the 17’th century the Chinese peoples kicked the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church out of China.
Ever since, the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church has had it out for the Chinese. Not just China, but the Chinese themselves. It became a cultural/racial thing.
As a result of the Opium Wars, the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church re-established a toe-hold in China by virtue of conquest, only to be kicked out again in the 1950’s, when the Chinese peoples firmly and thoroughly purged China of all foreign cultural and identity influences, and restored their traditional culture and identity. The problem was not Catholicism, and even Christianity itself, the problem was that the Pope insisted it be entirely controlled by himself, an outsider to China, a foreigner. The Chinese allowed the Catholic Church in China, as long as the entire leadership of the church were Chinese, living in China, respectful of the thousands-of-years cultural identity of the Chinese. It was to be a made-in-China Catholic religion, recognizing Chinese history and precedent… After all, the Chinese cultural religious background and identify are at least twice as old as Christianity.
Most of the Western negative attitude towards China stems from the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church crusade against the Chinese for refusing to bow down to the dictates of the Roman Catholic (Emperor) Pope, and for the refusal of the Chinese peoples to accept the moral, ideological, and ethical authority of a foreign (non-Chinese) power.
This is extremely narrow and one-sided. This problem went both ways.
For example, when western diplomats went to China to negotiate trade, they were often thrown out for not bringing convoys of gold and silver as tribute just to talk to the Emperor, since in those days China was such a local superpower that the very concept that a foreign nation wouldn’t kowtow and beg for scraps at the Emperor’s feet didn’t exist. They thought that diplomats daring to stand without groveling in front of the Emperor was a direct insult and verging on a declaration of war.
This is why so many western diplomats simply went around the Imperial court, which is also a significant reason why the opium wars happened (though not exclusively. The west is heavily to blame for escalating and taking advantage).
Both sides refused to back down, so it both underhanded means as well as military force was utilized. Neither side accepted to consider the other as an equal, so when a clash of needs and desires came about, physical domination was the only possible result. Nowadays, China is still using the same principals that the Emperors of eld held, but is trying to use the west’s old methods back against them.
I wont say that the west isn’t at fault at any point along the way, but China’s means and motivations are equally as bad and there is no justification aside from greed, pride, and envy for what they are doing. People complain about all the stuff the CIA’s been doing, but you have to ask yourselves, how do you justify China sending thousands of fishing boats just outside of Argentina’s EEZ? You know, in Atlantic waters, not even Pacific ones.
And this isn’t even starting on how China keeps making artificial islands in the south China seas to extend their claims on territorial waters, boxing in the Philippines, Indonesia, and the other local powers that are still so poor that the Halifax-class is more like a battleship compared to what their navies have.
Wow. What mythological fiction book did you read that in, or is it a direct product of your own mind?
Every bt of it sounds exactly like the kind of China-bashing propaganda that the Roman Catholic (empire) Church spreads.
Did you know that Amnesty International was founded by a devout Catholic, and the purpose was to promote Catholic propaganda as ‘an independent voice’? Everything that Amnesty International says about China is vetted by the pope.
This is simply history. You can read about it in normal everyday history books of any sort regardless of affiliation or background.
I’m not trying to give a one-sided impression of what happened, but simply counter-arguments to your statements, which is why I didn’t bother to reiterate your own points. I’m not saying that what you said was all wrong, but that it was only half the story. I provided the other half. If you consider it illiterate propaganda, then I suppose all hail the Han dynasty and all of Earth awaits the day they overthrow the whites in Confucius glory or something.
I read a LOT about History, and it seems that the history YOU are reading is ‘Alternate Historical Fiction’, not good sold History. It is not ‘trying to give the other side of the story’, it is pure anti-Chinese racism. They are not counter-arguments at all, they are pure racist propaganda talking points. Not a word you said has any basis in the factual historic record.
China is doing exactly what it needs to raise its people out of poverty, allowing them to take their proper place in the world order. Nothing to do with greed. There is EVERY justification for China to do what it is doing, there is NO justification except pure racism to try to prevent China from doing it.
Raise it’s people out of poverty, right after starving the entire country almost into oblivion you mean? Rural Chinese aren’t even that much better than where they were a hundred years ago. Hell, parts of rural China is far worse than it was back then since at least there wasn’t any government interference beyond taxation back during the previous government.
Emperor Xi is not doing a single thing for the benefit of the Chinese people. Every single metric that can be backed up with physical evidence shows that China is in a serious decline right now, and it’s entirely caused by their government. You say that China is justified in doing what it is doing, then you say that their aggression towards their neighbours in the South China Seas is justified? Ramming their fishing boats against coast guards? Sending thousands of fishing boats just outside of the EEZ of Argentina? Performing highly aggressive and potentially lethal stunts to harass neighbouring patrol planes doing completely legal and globally standard regional patrols because China decided to enact territorial laws that haven’t been enforced the entire time the CCP had existed?
You are making completely bad-faith arguments. I’m not the one being racist here. Especially since I am a pure-blooded East Asian myself.
Your complete ignorance about what is happening in China is appalling. It also smells of racism.
I return the same words. What about the Uyghurs, or the Tibetans?
Amnesty International is in many aspects a spokesperson for the Vatican. Nothing they say about China can be considered truthful or factual.
The Chinese have nothing against the Uighur. They are, in fact, living prosperously and peacefully in China. It is the Uighur terrorists that China has effectively dealt with, and most of the Uighur people support the Chinese efforts. They can now live in peace, free from the terrorist bombings and intimidation.
In point of fact, American bombings of the Uighur terrorists killed more Uighur children and citizens than the deaths in China, yet not a word about this massacre the Americans committed against the Uighur. It was this massacre of Uighur civilians that forced them into China in the first place, and it is these displaced Uighur who are doing all the agitating. They HAD a homeland - in Afghanistan. The Americans evicted them from their homeland.
(https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-targets-chinese-uighur-militants-well-taliban-fighters-afghanistan-n845876)