Hong Kong's biggest pro-democracy party is moving to disband itself after more than 30 years of activism.
  • marathon@lemmy.mlEnglish
    29·
    2 days ago

    Yes, USAid dried up FFS. It was nothing about democracy but again, regime change or an attempt at that scenario.

  • RubicTopaz@lemmy.world
    583·
    2 days ago

    I’m guessing pro “democracy” just means pro-liberalism and pro-US in this case?

    • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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      2 days ago

      yeah thats these people’s code for capitalism, yes.

      under the assumption that its the only democratic way, which is almost the exact opposite of the truth.

    • freagle@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      23·
      2 days ago

      It means pro-Western empire. Hong Kong was occupied by Britain and only developed a “pro-democracy/anti-China” movement when the British decided to develop it as a leave-behind spoiler when they realized they had no legal basis to extend their lease of the island past 1999

      • folaht@lemmy.ml
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        4 hours ago

        But they did extend the lease for fifty years didn’t they? With the one-country, two systems treaty, they extended the lease for 50 years while adding the rest of Hong Kong that wasn’t under lease, but owned by the UK.

        • freagle@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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          3 hours ago

          I don’t think so, but I could be run. The British government does not have a lease for Hong Kong as of 1997. If it was owned by the UK it would be two countries one system. One country two systems means that Hong Kong is part of China but retained all the artifacts of British influence including common law, official language of English, international dialing code, customs and border patrol, etc.

          So no, I don’t think any lease was extended.

    • Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
      120·
      2 days ago

      I would suppose it’s pro independence / sovereignty, but that’s generally a no-no topic

  • Raiderkev@lemmy.world
    930·
    2 days ago

    I now feel what all those poor Hong Kongers felt a few years back. Seeing this just makes me feel so damn hopeless.

    • freagle@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      231·
      2 days ago

      No you don’t. Hong Kong was occupied by the British, brutally. You were never occupied, you are the occupier living in an anglo state based on British common law. No one ever force-fed your school children propaganda glorifying your occupier and villifying your fellow countrymen. None of your countrymen ever worked tireless for half a century to ensure the occupier would leave and then worked diligently to give your fellow tortured and estranged brethren a path that allowed you to maintain self-governance even with elements of the occupier’s culture just to ensure you felt safe and respected in one country with two systems.

      You know nothing about what the Hong Kongers felt, throwing Molotov cocktails and police forces that spent weeks defusing the situation with as little violence as they could manage. You live in an occupier culture where your police literally itch for the opportunity to crack the skulls of hippies, liberals, blacks, Muslims, and anyone else they think is beneath them

      You have no idea what you’re talking about and even less of an idea of what the Hong Kongers are talking about. If you really cared about them, you would research their history and understand what they’ve been through. Instead, you just read your domestic propaganda that villifies one group and glorifies another group of the same peoples continuing the terrible legacy of the British occupation, but you don’t care about that.

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      141·
      2 days ago

      you feel what? you literally have no clue about hong kong, you can’t even locate it in a map 😂

    • Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
      726·
      2 days ago

      “Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”