• Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/24/mpeq-a24.html

    It is from this standpoint that the World Socialist Web Site has exposed the fraudulent “Fighting Oligarchy” campaign mounted by Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The large turnouts at their rallies, as well as the huge participation in the April 5 and April 19 protests against the Trump administration, express the social anger among millions of working people and their desire to fight back. But Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez never indict capitalism as a system or call for a struggle against it. And they supported and hailed the Biden administration even as it was presiding over the greatest-ever accumulation of wealth on the part of the financial aristocracy.

    For all their fulminations against the oligarchy, they carefully avoid advancing any demand that would deprive the billionaires of their ill-gotten riches. They pretend that society can be changed without a drastic redistribution of wealth, which requires the expropriation of the billionaires.

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      I am so fucking sick of people demanding perfection. In this case, perfection is very much the enemy of good. AOC and Sanders are some of the absolute best people currently a part of our political class. Insisting on perfection - especially when your definition of “perfection” would likely alienate a meaningful amount of people who currently support them - is counterproductive to the degree that I question whether people who say that shit are even arguing in good faith.

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        The person you replied to quoted World Socialist Website, which is run by a bunch of boomer edgelords who mentally never grew up and still thinks we’re still in the 1960s. The only socialist publisher worth reading is Jacobin, even though I may not agree everything with them.

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        I question whether people who say that shit are even arguing in good faith.

        They never do. Anyone devaluing the best politicians we have on our side, is really only carrying water for fascists.

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        You say “perfection”. What I think you meant to say was “principled anti capitalism”.

        I’m not asking for perfection. I’m asking for literally any semblance of solidarity or anticapitalism.

        Regardless, until a truly anti capitalist party gains power, the devolution into fascism will continue.

        In 30 years, when the choice is between a dem who wants 15 genocides and a Republican who wants 16, yall will still be bleating this tired ass “perfection as an enemy of good” motto. Think of a new one, please. Or even try to start defining what your idea of “perfection” actually is.

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          15 genocides vs 16 genocides

          A false dichotomy, but even so, the math is simple. 15 is less than 16. Bad things WILL happen. Let’s try to stop at least SOME of them shall we?

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            “American genocide is a forgone conclusion, so I will give full support to the genocidal regime whether the color is red or blue”

            This is why people call you blue maga. There is no red line. There is no amount of evil that would make you all start to consider the legitimacy of the US empire. You all will sacrifice however many Palestinian kids it takes to bide time till the next election cycle. All under the guise of pragmatic utilitarianism.