• Jack@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    Saying that you add nuance with that comment, is like saying anti-vaxers add nuance with their views.

    It is proven time and time again that when something is done against landlords the normal people benefit. See Vienna for example, or the early ccp or the whole movement of and views of Henry George.

    You can also see full video about the topic in Britain here

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      Sure. But no matter how many videos I watch or how many articles I read about how terrible landlords can be, it won’t change the fact that I dont want to own a property and also that there are people who are unable to buy. There are also people who are not in that stage of life where they want to have ties to a house.

      Its not black or white.

      Hence nuanced

      I might be in the wrong place, discussing and interesting topic though.

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        17 hours ago

        Landlords drive up the price of housing by forcing regular home buyers to compete with investors. That’s why most people can’t afford to own a home.

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        1 day ago

        You are having a false dichotomy here, it is not either no landlords or no rental properties.

        That is the whole point, you can have all the benefits and more without landlords.

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          You might be right. I can’t see it though, besides public housing, which imo isn’t a long term viable solution. At least not to me.

          The thus is, that I live in a country where landlords have been strictly regulated and there are rules to how much rent they can take, how much they can raise it and over what period of time.

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            public housing, which imo isn’t a long term viable solution.

            Why not? And also where is the line between heavily regulated private sector and a public one?

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              Lack of choice for one. In public housing you get allocated a space according to some bureaucrat’s tired Friday afternoon can’t be arsed perception of your most basic needs, not what you want.

              It’s just you? You get a “studio”, i.e. kitchenette, table and bed all in one room, separate bog and shower in a tiny cupboard if you’re lucky. Want a separate kitchen? No. Second bedroom for friends? No. Garage for the car you don’t want nicked? No. Extra room for your instruments? No. And it’s in a shitty area too, here’s your free stab vest. You’ll also want to buy some nasal protection too because you’re on the 27th floor and the piss-filled lift hasn’t been cleaned in 15 years.

              Oh there are four of you? Parents share a double (no it’s not big enough for a king-size bed), kids share a room. One two-bed flat coming right up, complete with all the same refusals and one vest. There is one concession though, we don’t put families more than 10 floors up.

              Buying or renting gives you the choice to live in whatever you want, wherever you want, providing you can afford it. Of course if you can’t afford it then you have to rely on handouts and you just have to be happy with what you’re given.

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                Buying or renting gives you the choice to live in whatever you want, wherever you want, providing you can afford it.

                That sounds wonderful in theory but in reality we get skid row there is no need to evern argue, this is the system we live today and daily people die from exposure and are forced to live in tents around the world.

                This is INHUMANE system and we can see it every day.

                If “the choice” is out of reach for many people is there even a choice?

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                  You’re absolutely correct that there are many improvements that need to be made. Basic needs for everyone could be met if we could get the leadership willing to achieve that.