• goodeye8@fedia.io
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    21 hours ago

    Do you think the average westerner is aware of what is happening in the West Bank?

    Do you think the average westerner would be aware of what is happening in Gaza if Hamas wasn’t retaliating against Isreal?

    I don’t condone what Hamas is doing, but I’m not going to be so naive to believe the western world would give a shit about Palestine if not for Hamas putting a spotlight on Gaza. We probably wouldn’t even be having this discussion without Hamas, we (in the collective sense) would be letting Isreal annex Palestinian lands with minimal criticism.

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      18 hours ago

      Most don’t know even with what Hamas is doing. Which is mostly hurting the people they’re supposed to represent. Most Palestinians dislike Hamas as much as anyone else. They just can’t do anything about it.

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        14 hours ago

        You said Hamas has done nothing to help the people. Is getting more privileges in the eyes of the UN not help? Palestine got more rights due to the Gaza war, which Hamas started. Like I said, I don’t condone their actions, but their actions do end up putting Israeli atrocities in the forefront which ultimately leads to more people turning against Israel. I wouldn’t be surprised if some Palestinians are against Hamas. They’re a necessary evil that should be purged as soon as Israel stops trying to eradicate Palestine, but as long as Israel is oppressing Palestine Hamas is necessary if for no other purpose than to draw global attention on Palestine.

        If you want Gaza to be like the West Bank then they might as well just roll over and die.

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          14 hours ago

          Is it? Honest question. In general I support the idea of the UN and the spirit of it. What good is it?

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          15 hours ago

          The genocide and deportation is happening, and will happen. Hamas is having no effect. They are only getting more innocent Palestinians killed.

          Since coming into power how many elections has Hamas held? Zero? Fuck hamas. What, elections can’t be held during an ongoing conflict? Well isn’t that just convenient. Let’s just keep the conflict going forever and they can stay in power forever. Fuck Hamas.

          Who’s been getting suitcases of cash from Israel and not used it to actually help the Palestinian people? Fuck Israel, fuck Hama’s.

          Why is it when a named high level Hamas member is killed it’s basically never in Gaza or any of the places they’re supposed to be fighting for. Always hundreds to thousands of miles away in some Conflict Free Zone pissing the time away while accomplishing little to nothing. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely understand the Strategic value in having a safe point from which to plan. But at some point they need to be in the trenches themselves. And not sending children to be slaughtered.

          Honestly the lot of US politicians that have actively funded Israel’s conflicts along with the whole of Israeli government should be tried and imprisoned. But just because they are evil. That doesn’t make Hamas good.