These movies are for stupid people.

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    13 hours ago

    To be fair to Rian on TLJ, from what I understand, he was given absolutely zero information to work with from JJ, and when he tried to salvage the plot of TFA and get the franchise moving again, they scrapped his character work and plot lines and “somehow Palpatine returned” was what we got. The new trilogy was a fucking mess, and I don’t blame Rian for that, especially because I know he can write a tight plot.

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      12 hours ago

      “Somehow Palpatine Returned” was Rise of Skywalker… after Johnson painted them into a corner by killing Snoke, reducing the resistance to a size that could fit on the Falcon, and offing Luke Skywalker instead of Leia when he had the chance.

      But I tend to give Rise of Skywalker a pass because a) Johnson fucked them and b) Carrie Fisher died and it was supposed to be “her” movie, like Force Awakens was Hans and Last Jedi was Lukes. :(

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        11 hours ago

        Kathleen Kennedy admitted that the story wasn’t mapped out and that JJ would work with Rian who was to direct the second and write the third film. However, JJ abandoned the project for Star Trek and Cloverfield, and left Rian in the wind. The third movie went through three different directors and a handful of writers (with Rian being excluded completely) before Kennedy called JJ back in, who then abandoned everything Rian had done in 8 and decided that he wanted to make 9 all by himself, thus, “Somehow Palpatine returned,” not to mention that intro that makes the first 20 minutes of the movie feel like a recap to a film that never happened. It was a clusterfuck.

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          6 hours ago

          My hope for Star Wars died during this scene:

          Like, I’ll eventually watch all these spinoff shows and I’m hopeful for Andor (the Mandelorian had some cool moments), but when PETA got ahold of the plot I knew we were too far gone.

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            The one Star Wars property I hate more than Last Jedi is Rogue One, and the writer/director they brought in to “save” that film is the Andor show-runner. So… nope, I’m out.

            He’s actually on record saying his super power is he never cared about Star Wars. So the polar opposite of a Dave Filloni.