• andybytes@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    It is the optics really… It is just a opportunity to intimidate and we know these pigglets have got caught doing shady shit already. They don’t keep us safe. This is a violent dog and pony show for the micro penis burger king. The cops esuculate the situation every single time…have you ever been to a protest? Go touch some grass and stop licking boots. Rationalizing the unreasonable is like fucking for virginity. What are you 90 years old…so out of touch. This oinker is rogue and unprofessional if there was ever such a thing attributed to such a lowly creature. You are either a agent or a idiot.

    • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      I have been protesting for various causes for decades.

      Engaging with police using lethal force is not going to endear anyone to the anti-government cause that desperately needs more people involved.

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        2 days ago

        Your stances are admirable and I understand your sentiment but they are relics of a past you were privileged to live in for those decades (others didn’t share that experience and have been going through this without national attention). Your reality has now shifted and I hope that you’ll be able to come to terms with those changes and not regress into authoritarian sympathies like your relatives thinking “if only they could do it peacefully”.

        Enough people have pointed out the flaw in the “self-defense” scenarios you’re imagining, I don’t believe you will come around to those without heavy education/exposure on past & current events involving police interaction and constitutional rights (there are a lot of good resources and public “auditors” online you should seek out). I will just point out the slippery slope that exists with the Sheriffs statements, “What is a brick?” - at what point does a brick become a rock/pebble or vice versa? “What is a firebomb?” - if any incendiary device is considered lethal, do firecrackers or sparklers count since it ignites?

        An officer in full tactical/riot gear getting hit with a brick isn’t lethal, yet a “non-lethal” firearm can kill from a shot in the face or beanbag to the chest in close range. Teargas can cause a fatal reaction if not treated in time. The “law-enforcement” in this instance have decided due-process (once again) isn’t necessary and will pass judgement on your actions while punishing you with state-sponsored violence and/or death.

        The lines have already been drawn, “People that want to protest will be met with big force… this is people that hate our country. They will be met with heavy force.” -Trump

        People have already decided on their stance, the various and numerous polls show basically the same support that Trump was elected with. Their goal is to silence the 30-50% that heavily oppose and demonize them in the eye of public opinion. It’s an effective campaign. Trump supporters who still follow want the chaos and clap-down of rights to “protect them” from their perceived threats. The neutral parties just want to be left alone in their comfort and don’t want to be imposed upon (these are the same neutral parties like in Nazi Germany) and will take any excuse to condemn “violent protestors” whether it’s factual or actually representative of the movement as a whole. There will be no “reconciliation” or changing of people’s minds till the fascists come directly for them and effect negative outcomes in their lives (just like they condemn peaceful protests because they’re in a street).