Well, the reason the Vietnamese won was through mastery of the environment. They knew the jungles inside and out, and the American military didn’t.
We the People need to get to know our cities well because, if something like a revolution actually happens soon, that’s where most of the fucking fighting’s going to be. Plus, these are cops we’re dealing with. Setting up ambushes for them would be pretty easy. It’s open fighting during something like, say, a protest that the cops have always held the advantage of, simply because they were willing to use crowd control tactics and take advantage of the lay of the land while protesters were unwilling to.
It’s not against the military. Nobody mention the army or marines you dummy. This is about the police. We can take those fuckers. Pigs don’t have artillery and air support.
I think it is a combination of bootlickers and a few cops. I don’t think it is to goad anyone into doing anything. They don’t want people to actually attack them. I think they are trying to get people to say certain things that would be criminal so they can arrest them before they attack.
So be careful with your words. Instead of saying “I am going to kill the baton rouge police chief,” say “I am going to effect change” or something along those lines.
At the same time watch for those that are trying to goad you into typing something they can take action on.
The hosts of fediverse instances DO NOT have the resources to fight government subpoenas over what you say.
The concern trolls are probably just spooks paid to forum slide. They did a hell of a job – nobody ever got a chance to seriously talk about the notion; we all spent the entire time arguing with them instead of focusing on what matters, myself included.
The government’s real power here though is in the fear – everyone’s afraid to openly talk about such things because they fear they’re being spied on by NSA spooks or the FBI or whatever. And most importantly, it’s become taboo and socially unacceptable to talk about revolution, and that’s the way the government set it up through decades of propaganda and how it intends to keep things, down to the very last innocent life. When everyone feels comfortable openly talking about revolution, there’ll be no need for anybody to be afraid anymore, and that’s what the system truly fears. Then it’ll be impossible to arrest people for fomenting such talk since they literally can’t actually arrest everybody.
That, clearly, is the most important thing that needs to happen. Once the wall of fear comes down, so does their shitty house of cards they’ve been using to control everybody. The concern trolls are here to keep it up, hence the forum sliding.
It’s not “the us military” that they are fighting. Also don’t say dumbshit stuff like that since if the “US Military” is bombing american cities your liberal drivel is irrelevant.
I actually am being kind of serious about this. The fact that cops are running fucking CIA-style black sites shows us that
They’re escalating their oppressive garbage
Some spook is showing them how
And those alone are enough justification for physically throwing them the fuck out. Go read about the nasty shit the U.S. government did to Middle Eastern men it kidnapped in its war on terror in the 00’s. Their tactics are very similar to how this site and other torture mills U.S. cops have been caught running operate.
I think there is some confusion. The context, as I understood it, was that “they” are conservatives and are not fighting the military. So I wanted to know who they were fighting.
It’s all good. Questions like yours are exactly why I came out and said what I said. We the people need to have this talk. We should have had it 20 years ago.
So I hereby claim specifically that We the People of the United States of America need to start physically overthrowing police departments we catch doing shit like this – and I mean the entire police department of whatever city or county it happens in – and either completely shut down the department or replace every single member wholesale. Physically throw them out; shoot them if necessary. Same with judges, attorneys or any other state actors who participated.
If we don’t we will subject the Zoomers and Alpha Genners to the same horrors we were forced to grow up in… allowing that to happen is in no way conscionable and if we let cops get away with shit like this, we will have no room to blame Boomers and their horrific abuses for the way the world is. The only ones we’ll have to blame at that point is us.
You need to stop talking about this and start doing it, otherwise it’s just more useless empty talk. Go get your mates and all your guns and evict some police departments and judges.
I look forward to hearing about you on international news, this is going to be huge!
Because he’s likely a paid spook out forum sliding. Just downvote and ignore him. Any response you give to him is him successfully distracting you from talking about the scandal or revolution. He’s goading you for that purpose.
I’m here because this was a conversation to read and I was bored and scrolling. I got invested because you guys are acting like bad faith actors trying to stoke a ‘far left uprising’ so the US media and politics can use this as evidence for even more facism.
You’re the one who has twice now told people they are all talk and no action and yet are offended by people telling you to take up arms and get on out there to fight the good fight.
If you have any common sense, you’ll see that this person calling everyone who doesn’t agree with them a ‘paid spook’ and telling you to ignore them all in favour of listening only to their incendiary drivel- should not be taken seriously to when they tell you to go on a mass murder spree and steal from national guard arsenals.
Go shoot up police stations and murder judges though if you believe that’s what you have to do to. No one here is stopping you. Take all your mates and see how far you can get. I’m sure this will be what it takes to set your country right.
(I’m also not male, so don’t be using he/him on me)
They’ve proven time and time again they’re tyrants and are self-aware about it, and therefore need to be physically removed, but we both know you’re just here to forum slide and not to have an honest debate, so ignoring you now
A bunch of idiots with guns stand no chance against the US military. This isn’t a fight you can win by force.
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Did they though? I don’t think so.
The Vietnamese people made a good effort and successfully repelled the US military.
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Because we left. They were pretty weak until we left.
Vietnam on the other hand maintained the ability to inflict major casualties throughout.
I’m in agreement with you that poorly equipped groups can make an impact. I disagree that the goat herders in Afghanistan did.
Well, the reason the Vietnamese won was through mastery of the environment. They knew the jungles inside and out, and the American military didn’t.
We the People need to get to know our cities well because, if something like a revolution actually happens soon, that’s where most of the fucking fighting’s going to be. Plus, these are cops we’re dealing with. Setting up ambushes for them would be pretty easy. It’s open fighting during something like, say, a protest that the cops have always held the advantage of, simply because they were willing to use crowd control tactics and take advantage of the lay of the land while protesters were unwilling to.
So, know thy streets, to start.
It’s not against the military. Nobody mention the army or marines you dummy. This is about the police. We can take those fuckers. Pigs don’t have artillery and air support.
…As if military personnel wouldn’t join and blow the head off a crook cop or military officer in a civil war.
Isn’t the military being woke a conservative talking point? If they are woke then they’re on our side. :)
They are so silly that they think other people don’t think for themselves either.
They will once you start an armed rebellion.
The most we’d have to deal with is the National Guard and we can just steal shit from their armories.
Fucking hell, you guys have no idea what this kind of armed rebellion entails, do you?
You don’t know the limitation of military actions on US soil. The National Guard would be called the military is for foreign affairs.
I think these idiots are cops pretending to be ‘antifa’, to try and rile up folk into storming police stations.
Either that or kids.
I think it is a combination of bootlickers and a few cops. I don’t think it is to goad anyone into doing anything. They don’t want people to actually attack them. I think they are trying to get people to say certain things that would be criminal so they can arrest them before they attack.
So be careful with your words. Instead of saying “I am going to kill the baton rouge police chief,” say “I am going to effect change” or something along those lines.
At the same time watch for those that are trying to goad you into typing something they can take action on.
The hosts of fediverse instances DO NOT have the resources to fight government subpoenas over what you say.
The concern trolls are probably just spooks paid to forum slide. They did a hell of a job – nobody ever got a chance to seriously talk about the notion; we all spent the entire time arguing with them instead of focusing on what matters, myself included.
The government’s real power here though is in the fear – everyone’s afraid to openly talk about such things because they fear they’re being spied on by NSA spooks or the FBI or whatever. And most importantly, it’s become taboo and socially unacceptable to talk about revolution, and that’s the way the government set it up through decades of propaganda and how it intends to keep things, down to the very last innocent life. When everyone feels comfortable openly talking about revolution, there’ll be no need for anybody to be afraid anymore, and that’s what the system truly fears. Then it’ll be impossible to arrest people for fomenting such talk since they literally can’t actually arrest everybody.
That, clearly, is the most important thing that needs to happen. Once the wall of fear comes down, so does their shitty house of cards they’ve been using to control everybody. The concern trolls are here to keep it up, hence the forum sliding.
I’m talking about you and the other idiot who wants to get people killed doing this.
I know. :)
I write that not for you but for other people to protect themselves from people like you.
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It’s not “the us military” that they are fighting. Also don’t say dumbshit stuff like that since if the “US Military” is bombing american cities your liberal drivel is irrelevant.
So who are you fighting? Neighbors and civilians that don’t vote like you?
The police departments that keep doing this shit.
I actually am being kind of serious about this. The fact that cops are running fucking CIA-style black sites shows us that
They’re escalating their oppressive garbage
Some spook is showing them how
And those alone are enough justification for physically throwing them the fuck out. Go read about the nasty shit the U.S. government did to Middle Eastern men it kidnapped in its war on terror in the 00’s. Their tactics are very similar to how this site and other torture mills U.S. cops have been caught running operate.
I think there is some confusion. The context, as I understood it, was that “they” are conservatives and are not fighting the military. So I wanted to know who they were fighting.
It’s all good. Questions like yours are exactly why I came out and said what I said. We the people need to have this talk. We should have had it 20 years ago.
So I hereby claim specifically that We the People of the United States of America need to start physically overthrowing police departments we catch doing shit like this – and I mean the entire police department of whatever city or county it happens in – and either completely shut down the department or replace every single member wholesale. Physically throw them out; shoot them if necessary. Same with judges, attorneys or any other state actors who participated.
If we don’t we will subject the Zoomers and Alpha Genners to the same horrors we were forced to grow up in… allowing that to happen is in no way conscionable and if we let cops get away with shit like this, we will have no room to blame Boomers and their horrific abuses for the way the world is. The only ones we’ll have to blame at that point is us.
You need to stop talking about this and start doing it, otherwise it’s just more useless empty talk. Go get your mates and all your guns and evict some police departments and judges.
I look forward to hearing about you on international news, this is going to be huge!
Your not even American. Why so invested in this thread?
And why have you commented multiple times telling people to start shooting, while at the same time saying that we shouldn’t even talk about it?
Because he’s likely a paid spook out forum sliding. Just downvote and ignore him. Any response you give to him is him successfully distracting you from talking about the scandal or revolution. He’s goading you for that purpose.
I’m here because this was a conversation to read and I was bored and scrolling. I got invested because you guys are acting like bad faith actors trying to stoke a ‘far left uprising’ so the US media and politics can use this as evidence for even more facism.
You’re the one who has twice now told people they are all talk and no action and yet are offended by people telling you to take up arms and get on out there to fight the good fight.
If you have any common sense, you’ll see that this person calling everyone who doesn’t agree with them a ‘paid spook’ and telling you to ignore them all in favour of listening only to their incendiary drivel- should not be taken seriously to when they tell you to go on a mass murder spree and steal from national guard arsenals.
Go shoot up police stations and murder judges though if you believe that’s what you have to do to. No one here is stopping you. Take all your mates and see how far you can get. I’m sure this will be what it takes to set your country right.
(I’m also not male, so don’t be using he/him on me)
I wonder if more transparency, accountability, and oversight might be a more effective remedy than you know… just killing cops.
They’ve proven time and time again they’re tyrants and are self-aware about it, and therefore need to be physically removed, but we both know you’re just here to forum slide and not to have an honest debate, so ignoring you now
Liberal drivel my ass. If you take up arms against the cops, expect heavy resistance. Go ahead and get yourself killed.
Aaand there it is.