• then_three_more@lemmy.world
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    I see what you’re saying now. You’re basically describing deflation. Yeah people would buy bread (and other essentials to live) but as their currency would be more valuable tomorrow they’d put off buying non essentials. In fiat currency this is seen as prices dropping in bitcoin is seen as the value of the bitcoin going up.

    Why would I buy a non essential today when I know it’ll be 10% cheaper tomorrow?

    Why would I use my bitcoin to buy anything non essential when if I wait until the next spike it’ll be 30% more valuable than today?

    The answer of course is I wouldn’t. I’ll buy it later when it’s 10% cheaper for my fiat currency or 30% cheaper if I’m using bitcoin. It’s not an essential so why spend more to get he same thing.

    Currency needs stability in fiat currency to much instability is described in terms of inflation and deflation. Because bitcoin is more of an investment than a currency it’s described as it going up and down.

    As there’s no intrinsic value to bitcoin and because there’s no central backing working to maintain the stability it’ll never be anything other than a speculative investment for people who’re already rich or the few who get lucky to make some actual useable money off.

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      People would buy more than just bare essentials because people want things. This doesn’t exist in a vacuum – at this very moment, people are using fiat currency to buy all kinds of things they don’t need instead of investing it in some kind of appreciating asset.

      As there’s no intrinsic value to bitcoin

      There’s no intrinsic value to fiat currency. I’m not sure why you keep saying this.

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        21 hours ago

        People would buy more than just bare essentials because people want things

        People would buy less and ecconomies (rightly or wrongly) rely quite a lot on people buying more than they need. There’s a reason economics are scared of deflation. The fear of deflation was why interest rates where so low after the 08 crash and even lower during the pandemic.

        Also, other appreciating assets have some use within the wider economy. Shares you’re ingesting in a company that produces goods or services so they can spend that money on growing their business, bonds/guilts you’re enabling the issuer to borrow more to do whatever they need to do with that money (in the case of government bonds think roads, hospitals and bombs).

        There’s no intrinsic value to fiat currency.

        True. There isn’t to bitcoin either. What fiat has is stability and public confidence. When it looses stability that’s when things are bad. Bitcoin has proved itself extremely volatile, its about 16 years to become stable and it never has. Because bitcoin coin is so dominant in the crypto market I can’t see any crypo becoming stable while it exists.

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          12 hours ago

          Also, other appreciating assets have some use within the wider economy.

          Sure, but that has nothing to do with what I said about them.

          Again, you’ll notice people are spending their capital on things they don’t need all day, rather than than investing it in appreciating assets. Why are they doing that? Why would they buy things they don’t need today, when they could invest in an appreciating asset and be able to afford 10 of those things tomorrow?