• Tak@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    From what I’ve learned it feels like we’re just not supposed to be critical of it. It reminds me of being a kid and adults being upset when I ask too many questions or questions they might not want to face. I know you didn’t ask but Mark Fisher has a compelling way of describing it as capitalist realism and I wanted to leave this quote:

    Capitalist realism as I understand it cannot be confined to art or to the quasi-propagandistic way in which advertising functions. It is more like a pervasive atmosphere, conditioning not only the production of culture but also the regulation of work and education, and acting as a kind of invisible barrier constraining thought and action

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      9 months ago

      That’s exactly it, liberals don’t want us to question capitalism. In a discussion about socialism, some shitlib came by and asked what my job was. When I told them, they assumed I made a lot of money and said it was hypocritical for me to criticize capitalism. When I told them that I actually only earn $42k in a city with a living wage of $58k, suddenly I was just bitter and bitching about my low paying job, so I should get a good paying job.

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        9 months ago

        It’s the unwinnable created to make sure you are wrong.

        If you’re wealthy and a socialist you’re just using the movement as a way to make money and manipulate. If you’re poor and a socialist you’re just greedy and want to take from others because you’re lazy or something.

        Reversely if a poor person argues for capitalism because they assume it is a meritocracy then aren’t they saying they’re undeserving or lazy? Or if a wealthy person argues for capitalism aren’t they just saying “fuck everyone else but me” (true)

        I prefer to argue with entrenched conservatives through things they agree with. “It’s bullshit I can’t carry a firearm just because my boss doesn’t like it, it’s my 2nd amendment right and no big suit should be able to keep me from it because they created a world I need their money to survive” This is something they now have to argue against guns for the evil “suit” (hopefully a liberal company like disney) to defend capitalists. You can then follow it up with how pizza delivery is more unsafe than being a police officer and how those poor drivers can’t stay armed to defend themselves.