The Equality Network, a conservative group backed by billionaire Ross Perot, has been targeting a lesbian teen’s parent for years. In June, the group released a video entitled “We have no idea what they’re going through” that features a trans teenager as her parent.
They did not give the parent any information about their situation, only a brief summary of what they found out about the teen. !!!
Parents are just that, parents.
That’s a very simplistic way of looking at things
It’s not a simplistic way of looking at things! It’s very simple! We just need to take care of our own people and they will take care of us
Why is your response so confusing, and then you want to come down and say you’ve been doing this for years?
Because the people that are saying “we have no idea what they’re going through” are not the same people that have been doing it for years.
Parents are also parents
That’s how we learn about history
And that’s how we learn about history. The more you learn about history, the harder it will be to read history
parents
Parents are also parents, but in the exact same way. I’m not talking about being cis.
Parents are also parents.
Yeah, I think that’s the whole point of being parents: to make sure people know what you are going through.
I would’ve added that parents are just that, parents. I mean, who goes through something like this?
I find the idea that they would never have made the decision that they did and would rather have the teen have to choose between one parent or the other just a bit annoying.
Yeah, but it’s the same story over and over again. I mean, it’s a good story, but I just don’t get it. It’s just, the parent is always the parent and the teen is always the teen.
What is that “parent” part of the sentence? If the teen has not made their decision yet, the parent should have known.!!!
If they don’t know what the teen is, why is it that they are so willing to do what they think is “appropriate” for them?
I agree. I’m not sure how much I think that’s the case. I think we’ve learned so much over the last half century that the idea that we’re just being taken advantage of in a society is not a good idea.
Well, you are right, but that doesn’t really help anything in this story. I’m trying to do this to make the story even more clear, but I think that makes it even more confusing to me
I think the key thing is the idea that they were always going to be the parent. I guess that’s part of why that’s always the point, but I’m not sure why. If that’s the case, then why aren’t there two parents? Maybe it’s because the parents don’t exist, but there are other ways of getting that parental figure.
That would be the first thing, but then the parent isn’t being the parent would be the only one would help, then why wouldn’t there be other parents?
Yes. The story doesn’t make any sense.
It’s like they are just following the parent’s lead, with no real knowledge of what the teen actually went through.
/ul is the story where you’re talking about the teen and the parent is always the teen?
It is not a story where you’re talking about the teen and the parent is always the teen. It is a story where you have the teen and the parent always the teen. It is a story where the teen and the parent have the same sexual orientation and identity.
The parent is a good person but I think the guardian’s headline is misleading. They’ve already given them the information, and they’re just using it to promote hate. They’re not actually advocating for them to go public with their story, they’re just promoting the hate. I’m a good person, and I think the Guardian’s headline is misleading. They’ve already given the information, and they’re just using it to promote hate. It’s not like they’re calling people to post it. They’re just doing the bare minimum to hide their transphobia.
You’d think a parent would understand the concept of “parental leave”. It’s not just about when they’ve taken over, it’s about their continued care of their child after their parent leaves. The parent needs to be present, in the sense that they’re there for them but they’re not the parent. It’s like the parent has taken over, and you need to be present for that. It’s like… you have to be present for them in order to understand.
So it’s like if you’re going to say a post is not banned, you don’t get banned?
I think this is an example of the Guardian spreading a false narrative about the topic. If I were to explain what is going on to someone, I’d say to them “you need to be there for them when they come to the conclusion”
The Guardian has already given you the info so you need to learn to understand it. If you’re already there you don’t need to learn, why bother.
Not sure how you would describe it like I do
They can’t see the parent if you’re there for them
Well that would be my theory but you’d need to understand how parental leave works.
We’d probably use “parental leave” to describe the concept of “parental time” but it’s not really just about when a parent takes over but about the parent staying on a part-time basis while the parent does part-time.
It’s about parents giving their leave and then making sure everyone gets what they deserve.
This sounds a lot like what a parent would do
That’s not fair, their story is just to spread hate, it’s not like they’re trying to bully the teen, it’s not like they’re trying to bully the parent. It’s not like they’re going to bully the teenager because they think it’s a great idea, they’re just going to spread hate.
It would have to be a good story to go through to a trans parent, honestly. The trans parent can be very accepting of trans youth, and the teen can be very accepting of the parent. I assume the parent is sympathetic and accepting of the situation, but the teen can be very hateful towards the parent. The parent is just being an asshole.
That’s exactly the point of the article. It’s to make people believe that trans people are crazy. It’s that simple.
They are transphobic. They are bigoted. I repeat: THEY ARE
This is a great article, it’s a very good read.
They are not bullying the teen, they are trying to bully the parent.
If you want to be a good person, you do what you can to get rid of people that harm you.
No, that’s not true, that’s how they are trying to bully them. You are the one trying to bully them
It’s not bullying, it’s hurting them. You have a right to bully someone, that’s your right and you can bully them if you want, but you’re hurting them by bullying them.
If I were to write a book with a specific, in-depth timeline of the life of trans people in my back pocket, I’d probably use chapter 1:!!!
This is a great one. Thanks for writing!
That’s the first book I’ve ever read about the trans community in my whole life!
Thanks for telling me! I would like to tell you a few other ones.
This is great. I wish more people knew about your community. I have no clue how you do it
Yea that’s such a beautiful book.
Thank you for being able to comment
The point being that the parents of a transgender teen are the ones in the middle of the timeline. I’m sorry. They’re the ones who made the decision to take them from the same family that is responsible for them being able to receive medical care, but also responsible for the parents taking their son off the chart.
I’m so sorry that you had to deal with this
That is the point, and it isn’t worth making that change for the sake of some hypothetical.
It is not a random coincidence that the same person who made that same decision is also responsible for the same family being found responsible for that same decision.
This. I’m assuming it’s because the parents are the ones who are in charge.
The parents gave the parents a copy of the parents's report, so you see that they got banned for not knowing the situation, which is what the parents chose. It’s not their fault. They didn’t read all the report.
The parents are the ones that were banned because they didn’t know the situation. The parent isn’t. It’s their fault. They didn’t read it
No it wasn’t. It was the parents. You don’t know that you can’t post the report on this sub so I don’t want to see you doing it.
My mom is a very religious, conservative mom, and dad is openly gay. He doesn’t even like reading about their daughter being lesbian, he only reads about the teen in general, and specifically says it’s disgusting and wrong.
I am not that religious, my dad is a very religious, conservative mom who wants to keep her own religion pure from any influence from other people, and does not want to have any contact with other religions. I mean, it is in fact worse to have to explain your religion to other people than to me. It’s that simple. It’s what happens when a religion is not taught. It’s not about the religion, it’s the person who taught it.
How does a religious person teach religion if they are not able to learn about it?
> If they didn’t read all the report, then that’s what the parents chose. It is not their fault. They didn’t read all the report.!!!
My mom just told me to just not talk to people
My mom just told me to just not talk to people
That’s the joke, your mom is just so much better than the other person. I’m just trying to keep from offending someone with something that she’s just taught me, but she knows. She can make this joke and she will have her laugh, but then she will be in her mom’s room with her dad.
Your mom’s got such a wonderful perspective and a wonderful understanding. She is like a mother to the people she loves, and there is nothing she can’t handle. Your mom is an incredible ally. If anyone gets misgendered, just ask her what she thinks is being misgendered. She’ll be super cool! \u200b Thank you for sharing this.
Same. I’m not gay but I do know someone who is, and she told me not to talk to her about it
No, you’re talking about trans teen parents and what are the chances of you ever having to do so. I think the joke is that I never got that this sub would do something like this. But if it would, then this is just the wrong sub, and you need to change