do the right wing guys think it’s like a draco malfoy thing where they’re a good guy underneath?

like when it’s like a lady and a cop and the lady seems like a normal sorta boring suburban lady

do you know what i mean. this is one of the things where if you try to ask an AI bot it yells at you

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      Meh, he had various sources in hogwarts that where able to challenge the views he got taught by his parents.

      At a certain point something is not just the fault of the parents but also from the person in question. A victim doesn’t double down on beliefs he knows are wrong.

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        Draco was raised by wizard supremicists then sorted into a house exclusively filled with people just like him. His only exposure to anyone different was through rival houses. The school heavily encouraged competition between the houses and segregated children into ideological bubbles. All after one sorting ceremony when they were 11. Draco was a child. Imagine being judged by the beliefs you held when you were 11 for the rest of your life.

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          There was a point after Half-Blood Prince where he could choose to change. There was a point where he had to see error of his ways between that and the Battle of Hogwards. It seems he took that step for a while, there was redemption arc brewing - but never happened.

          He was indocrinated, yes. But he saw how terrible their side is and still chose to stick with it when he had a choice. He was 17 and adult in Wizarding World. Old enough to know right from wrong.

          It is likely that some time after, he regretted it. Otherwise I don’t see Harry and him nodding at one anoyher in the epilogue. But at the time of the books, he was not a good guy at all.

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            I wouldn’t go so far as to say he was a good guy, but I still don’t think it’s fair to label him as a bad guy by the end of the book (pre-prologue). By the end of half blood prince he’d started realizing that he was on the wrong side, but how many 15/16 year olds are out there that have the confidence to openly defy their parents, especially ones so renowned as the Malfoys? Nevermind the fact that Voldemort would have him killed for defecting

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              And I’d agree with you, of he didn’t come back at the Battle of Hogwarts to actively stop Harry. He chose to do that himself, proactively. He had to just go with the flow with the other people leaving and not sneak back.

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                Damn, I haven’t read the books in over a decade so I’m hazy on some of the details. I remembered him trying to stop Harry in the last book but I was thinking he was still rolling pretty deep with the other death eaters

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                  Well, kinda.

                  We have limited looks into what he was doing through the book but mostly he was in school. We (nly see him at the startin one of the meetings with Voldemort where he is clearly not comfortable. And then at Malfoy Manor where he refuses to identify Harry (or Hermione or Ron).

                  Also the book before when he had Dumbledore at his mercy, he was lowering his wand when other Dead Eaters marched in on him. He clearly had his doubts - no wonderv the whole Half-Blood Prince he was tortured with the impossible task he was given as a punishment to what his father has done and the whole year after they suffered Voldemorts displeasure by them.

                  And still, he went out of his way to serve. Honestly, I was not happy with this because I sensed his redemption arc coming and no he just became villain again. There is a cut scene from the movies where he throws Harry a wand and runs over from the Death Eaters when Harry reveals himself alive, which is something I think would be great for his character - to show that in the end he was a brainwashed boy who was victim of his upbringing but managed to overcome… but that’s not what happened.