• o1011o@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    That’s kind of a crap article with a fair bit of obvious bias. They’re parroting common weak anti-vegan talking points.

    Capitalism is what’s actually at play here. Veganism is and has been clearly rising in popularity forever, but capitalists got it in their head that the big moment of cultural shift was here and they made a bunch of new investments hoping to ride the wave. That wave isn’t quite here, and so they overreached, and now they don’t have the demand they gambled on. Veganism is still on the rise, steadily, but we aren’t at a tipping point yet.

    Who give a fuck about the money, though? Veganism is a rights issue. It’s about the radical idea that torturing and raping and killing animals who are substantially the same as us is a fucked up and terrible thing to do. We do violence towards other humans because of this pervasive idea that it’s okay to hurt others for our own pleasure if we can just figure out a convincing enough excuse. Vegans reject all excuses. If there’s a victim, there’s a crime. You rape a cow to get her pregnant so you can kill her baby for veal and milk her so hard she bleeds and then rape her again and keep the cycle going until she dies on her feet, all for nothing more than your own pleasure, then a rape was committed, and so was a murder, and so was an insane violation of the bodily autonomy of another sentient being. We don’t care who the victim is, only that they exist.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 days ago

      no one is raping cows. and almost no calves become veal. the vast majority are brought to full weight before slaughter.

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        lol, if you were brought to full weight before slaughter you’d already be dead and I wouldn’t have to listen to your nonsense. From the point of view of the victim, who is placed in what’s colloquially referred to as a rape rack and has an arm and an needle forced inside her, it’s a rape. If she wasn’t restrained she’d kick her assailant or run away. Anybody believing this weird claim about veal can go look up veal farms, endless horrible rows of tiny enclosures containing baby cows.

        Let’s not forget that farms have an exemption from bestiality laws because those laws would prevent them from doing what they do.

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    4 days ago

    As a lactose intolerant, I’ve been saddened by the recent decline in dairy-free options after having had so many choices for the last few years.

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      Also, be aware there are now artificial milk replacements that still have the proteins found in milk. It allows food to be marked as vegan, but can still cause problems for people who need dairy free.

      Recently discovered when a family member had an allergic reaction (followed by hospital visit) after having a vegan desert.

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    The people who were vegan prior to 2020 are probably still vegan.

    The people who became vegan but wanted to eat soylent green instead of cook real animal free foods probably went back to consuming dead animals and calf nourishment.

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      You ain’t gonna believe this, but my doctor asked me how I kept my cholesterol so good.

      When I told em my habits they replied, “nice! keep it up”

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      Bullshit, veganism is the moral baseline for decency towards other sentient beings. Effective change starts at the personal level and progresses to the systemic once enough people have actually changed themselves. Anything you hear about how people aren’t personally responsible is a cowardly attempt to avoid responsibility. People give money to corporations, that’s how they do the evils they do. When you can stop giving corporations power without harming yourself and you choose to still give them power? You’re the problem, and personal change is the solution that must precede system level change.

      Veganism is praxis. Making empty claims about opposing abuse while actively, materially supporting it is not.

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        Exactly. When I switched to a plant based diet in 2014, if I wanted vegan pizza or cake, I had to make it myself from scratch. Even things like ketchup would contain dairy.

        The supermarkets didn’t start making vegan ranges on a whim. It was the slow but steady rise of the number of people switching to plant based or reducing their animal product consumption. It WAS the individual actions of thousands adding up and creating this demand. You can buy tempeh in Lidl now, who would have thought?