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Time for a second holocaust
Man, why does Israel seem to want nothing more than to justify what Hitler did? Starting to feel like he should have been given time to finish the job.
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The co-opting of popular leftist movements like anti-zionism by fascists is nothing new. Israel plays into this to justify it’s settler colonial ambitions, like conflating the White supremacist movement with resistance groups like Hamas, or Palestinians in general.
the biggest Supporters of Israel are White, European and American Christians, not the Jews, but people like this will never actually confront this reality, because it doesn’t suit their political agenda
I don’t know how anyone with a clear mind could possibly defend this kind of behavior, this is Nazi shit. You cannot claim to be “apolitical”, ban both sides and then still have a Hitler defender around on your instance.
I don’t care if I am banned or not even though I did not do anything wrong - I mostly lurk on here, but Agrivar@lemmy.world should not be welcome in the fediverse, and the fact that they are only banned from 1 community is completely fucking inexcusable. kill all Nazis
I don’t think either of you should have been banned.
Hopefully we can get more communities and instances that allow open discussion instead of trying to dictate what people are allowed to say, see, and think.
What are we “seeing” when someone openly says that Jews should have been killed, exactly?
Israel is a genocidal nazi state, but israel≠Judaism.
you and the other user are both extremely intense in a mostly mellow thread, honestly. YDI. (imho)
edit: hexbears gon give it to 'ya
I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you.
So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.”
and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, oh, ok, and he continues. “you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.”
And i was like, “oh damn.”
and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.
It is everyone’s responsibility to be extremely intense to nazis whenever they show themselves.
Sure, but in this story, OP is another patron in the bar starting a fight with the nazi.
You see a troll, you downvote, report, move on. Let them get banned.
As OP points out, the nazi was banned from one comm rather than from the instance. If the bartender doesn’t throw the nazi all the way out, then it falls to YOU to make a scene until they do.
and they only did do so after I came in and made a fuss, clearly “just shut up and let the trolls roam freely” does not work
If it were an actual bar and someone said that shit in earshot of me, I’d probably force them out myself. And, at the bars I frequent, I have and not a single bouncer has stopped me.
Bring it up to the admins, then. Reports go to them too. The community mod doesn’t have the power to ban them from the instance.
I for one think there is no intensity too great for telling someone to fuck off for saying we need a second holocaust. Probably should do some introspection on your enlightened centrist civility fetish if you see OP In the wrong for getting heated at a literal fucking Nazi.
“enlightened centrist civility fetish”
not every place on the fediverse needs to be host to your attempts to start fights and arguments. both for you and the OP
So you think we should just be civil to someone literally praising Hitler. This is not my home instance or I would be far less civil about this. If you think we are too mean to LITERAL Nazis that says a lot about you tbh.
literally said none of those things. who are you talking to? are you in another thread and this one?
You did say that. I can see the two comments where you said that, in this thread. Why would you lie when anyone can read them?
you and the other user are both extremely intense in a mostly mellow thread, honestly. YDI. (imho)
“you deserved to get banned for being too mean to someone that said hitler was right and we should do another holocaust”
Go fuck yourself. Now I am going to be candid with you since you doubled down. You and every other fucking lib like you are just as complicit with every Nazi crime and you can go fuck yourself.
They’re so peaceful and loving
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Looks like a mod taking care of a slap fight.
YDI
They’ve probably both been banned from Reddit for exactly the same comments in the past.
This shits hilarious how users and mods don’t learn but just continue their behavior.
Wow, yeah that person is basically just a nazi
First, nazism is not compatible with legitimate anti-zionism.
Secondly, the mod seems like the usual liberalism enabling fascism: “Nazism and anti-nazism?!?!?! BOTH BAD!”
PTB.
Considering the baby torture news article this morning, I expect we will see a lot more of this sentiment start to come out.
That’s been going on for years, people just started paying attention.
Bibi’s desperation to get out of his corruption charges might unironically destroy the state of Israel in the long run. Definitely no parallels to that in any of their allies though.
based on this i’d probably say a mix of PTB and CLM
PTB, it is disgusting to see people apologize for Nazism. If you apologize for Nazis or try to imply we should feel bad for them in any way, you might as well be one of them.
