The citizens of the United States are responsible for their country’s actions - even if they themselves ignore the atrocities committed by their government.
Everywhere, the post is being removed - with the same generic reason: “No politics.”
Nevertheless, this obviously needs to be said, since it apparently still isn’t public knowledge in the U.S.
Everywhere, the post is being removed - with the same generic reason: “No politics.”
You might try !politics@lemmy.world, they are a US politics community.
Pretty sure any Americans willing to go out of their way to use a niche FOSS platform like Lemmy are already aware of this and trying to make change in the little ways they can. You’re kind of preaching to the choir. If you want to reach anyone go to facebook or Twitter or reddit (where your post will then be deleted by a power tripping mod)
Edit: also for clarity, how do you know this isn’t public knowledge in the US? Have you been there? If so, where? It’s not like all 300 million people in the US have the same viewpoints.
If not, I can tell you right now that our national politics are ultimately decided by a few thousand people in the most rural parts of the country who barely know what the internet is. If you look in places like NYC or Minneapolis or Seattle then you will get a much different picture of what people think than in Texas or Florida. People do what they can but when you have the entire government and billionaires against you it isn’t exactly easy to make changes that people see on the other side of the world.
Unfortunately, I don’t see it that way. I’ve found time and again that even US citizens in the Fediverse tend to display a massive amount of completely misplaced, naive national pride.
It seems to me that even those here, due to the oligarchy in the US that controls the media, are massively misinformed or uninformed despite their flirtation with free media.
Added to this is decades of propaganda that Americans apparently cannot overcome even here.
The best example is this post: Instead of the all-too-necessary self-criticism, there are only excuses - even though the U.S. president is a pedophile and a serious criminal. Nevertheless, U.S. citizens act as if that were not the reality.
Nevertheless, U.S. citizens act as if that were not the reality.
Again, where are you getting that? The people that are not aware of how much of a criminal Trump is aren’t using a platform created with the purpose of taking power away from big tech.
Every day I worry about what idiotic thing the US government is going to do next. And every day I worry about how establishment democrats are going to use republicans as an excuse to shift their politics to the right. I am painfully aware about how the US is making the world worse, and so are most of the people I interact with.
My point is that US citizens could remove their criminal president, but they don’t do so despite all his criminal machinations and despite the most serious war crimes.
Let’s be clear, getting rid of trump doesn’t stop anything. If anything, they WANT someone to target trump, because that gives them justification to be more tyrannical. What you are advocating for is called a Civil War, and if we started one now, Trump would win.
Like all countries, we have a system of government in place. When it comes to removing the president (executive branch) over objectionable behaviour, we have a process: it falls on the judicial and legislative branches to conclude that the behaviour was objectionable and that the president should be forcibly removed (a process in the system called impeachment). Trying to remove the president using means outside this system is literally saying, “the system doesn’t work, we need to throw it out, take matters into our own hands, and start from scratch”, i.e. a civil war.
For now we continue to try to take steps within the system, but it is now abundantly clear to most Americans that the Republicans in Congress have been colluding to allow the president to do whatever objectionable thing he wants. SCOTUS seems to be doing something similar. Unfortunately, that is their prerogative in the system we have.
If a group of states said, “that’s it, we’re done, the system doesn’t work, we don’t acknowledge you as the president, and we’re going to try to stop you” then within the system, it is the job of the US military to put a stop to that. Their job within the system is to ensure the system keeps working as the law dictates. And the US military is the most funded military in the world, so the rebellion would lose almost instantly.
This fall will be the real decider because of midterms. Trump is polling very poorly. A record number of Republican congress-people have announced they will not seek reelection. Democrats are winning in red states for the first time in close to a century. Trump is desperately trying to rig elections, and there’s a possibility he’ll attempt to cancel elections entirely. The result will be one of two things:
- Democrats regain control of Congress, and all of the crimes that Republicans wouldn’t hold anyone accountable for suddenly get held accountable.
- Trump tries to say “the system isn’t working, we need to establish a dictatorship and cancel elections”.
Ideally it’s option 1, but there’s a very real chance it’s option 2, in which case the US military is obligated to stop him. If they don’t, then we will cross the bridge you’re describing, and it won’t be pretty.
My point is that US citizens could remove their criminal president
If it were as simple as people just deciding to remove him then he would have been impeached in 2018 and again in 2020 and then sent to jail
How? Most people here are one missed paycheck away from having their lives upended; they have no time, money, or power. Look into the stats on poverty, healthcare, etc. in the US. The state of affairs is abysmal.
Come do it yourself, you coward.
Ouch you got threatened!
You won’t believe how good your statement applies to the citizens of Russia too.
Well, answering your question: if you make a meme from your text, you may try to post it in the meme comunities. Especially, the ones that are located on this instance.
Thank you very much. That’s basically what I’m getting at: there’s hardly any difference left between the US and Russia - both countries are controlled by oligarchs. But somehow, on the international stage, it’s portrayed as if only Russia were controlled by greedy autocrats.
However, since the mechanisms of control in the US are still far less pronounced than in Russia, I thought it would be a good idea to remind US citizens that they don’t yet live in a dictatorship, that they could still turn things around for the better if they would only give up their apathy and finally take action.
In Russia, it’s completely different. And in the US, it will soon be the same if citizens don’t fight back.
Maybe !goodoffmychest@lemmy.world or !justpost@lemmy.world ?
You as a human are responsible for all humans actions.
I’m not funding all humans. I am funding America
Spot on. Americans are bad human beings. This culture is fucked.
Illegal modern mafias.
Everywhere, the post is being removed - with the same generic reason: “No politics.”
People who make and enforce “no politics” rules are the people who need to hear it the most, so I think you’ve been posting in the right places, keep it up!
