I’ll never say capitalism is perfect but it’s a system that works - and at its best, it works remarkably well. I hear this argument a lot that communism hasn’t implemented the way it should be. Has there ever been a government that came close to what you would consider “almost good enough” communism?
Communism is by definition a stateless, moneyless, classless society. If any of these exist it is not communism.
There is no “almost good enough”. You can’t have almost classless.
If you have classes you aren’t classless, and in a single party system the party members are a class.
I put it to you that capitalism doesn’t work. It is an inherently corrupt system that will inevitably end in the destruction of everything.
Capitalism is unsustainable. Built on the myth of perpetual growth and willing to kill everything on this planet to achieve that.
Given a long enough time-frame all wealth and decision making capabilities under a capitalism will be consolidated in the hands of a couple of rich companies that will only care about economic growth. Damn the consequences.
/sidenote. I am not actually a communist but an Anarchist. I oppose all unjust hierarchies.
Money, state and class just happen to all fit under this definition and because of that I also support communism.
Most economic systems are inherently morally neutral. They’re just tools with no sentience - so I don’t understand how you can say capitalism is inherently corrupt when you literally said communism hasn’t been implemented properly in any country or state. It seems to me like communism is more flawed if it can be exploited more easily.
Please don’t say you’re an anarchist or I’ll have even less respect for you. 😂
Seriously, though, I used to be a pretty radical socialist until I did some real research (not trying to insult you, I mean that I looked at my beliefs through a very critical lens and my ideologies didn’t stand up to real scrutiny) and soul searching to end up leaning closer to what you would call a soc-dem.
I genuinely believe that you communists and anarchists want better living standards for every human on earth. But I think you guys have been lied to about the evils of capitalism and how good the system can truly be. And I concede that the extreme disparities between the rich and poor in a capitalist system are pretty fucking gross.
I’ll never say capitalism is perfect but it’s a system that works - and at its best, it works remarkably well. I hear this argument a lot that communism hasn’t implemented the way it should be. Has there ever been a government that came close to what you would consider “almost good enough” communism?
Communism is by definition a stateless, moneyless, classless society. If any of these exist it is not communism. There is no “almost good enough”. You can’t have almost classless. If you have classes you aren’t classless, and in a single party system the party members are a class.
I put it to you that capitalism doesn’t work. It is an inherently corrupt system that will inevitably end in the destruction of everything. Capitalism is unsustainable. Built on the myth of perpetual growth and willing to kill everything on this planet to achieve that. Given a long enough time-frame all wealth and decision making capabilities under a capitalism will be consolidated in the hands of a couple of rich companies that will only care about economic growth. Damn the consequences.
/sidenote. I am not actually a communist but an Anarchist. I oppose all unjust hierarchies. Money, state and class just happen to all fit under this definition and because of that I also support communism.
Most economic systems are inherently morally neutral. They’re just tools with no sentience - so I don’t understand how you can say capitalism is inherently corrupt when you literally said communism hasn’t been implemented properly in any country or state. It seems to me like communism is more flawed if it can be exploited more easily.
Please don’t say you’re an anarchist or I’ll have even less respect for you. 😂
Seriously, though, I used to be a pretty radical socialist until I did some real research (not trying to insult you, I mean that I looked at my beliefs through a very critical lens and my ideologies didn’t stand up to real scrutiny) and soul searching to end up leaning closer to what you would call a soc-dem.
I genuinely believe that you communists and anarchists want better living standards for every human on earth. But I think you guys have been lied to about the evils of capitalism and how good the system can truly be. And I concede that the extreme disparities between the rich and poor in a capitalist system are pretty fucking gross.