I am using duplicati and thinking of switching to Borg. What do you use and why?

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    Using borg backup, just because there are some nice frontends for the gnome ecosystem (when I am using gnome, I love to use gnome apps), and it has a nice cmd for scripting when using something else (using it on servers)

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    Kopia has served me great. I back up to my local Ceph S3 storage and then keep a second clone of that on a raid.

    Kopiahas good performance and miltiple hosts can back up tp it concurrently while preserving deduplication – unlike borgbackup.

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      Kopia has been working great for me as well. It’s simple, versatile and reliable. I previously used Duplicati but kept running into jobs failing for no reason, backup configurations missing randomly and simple restores taking hours. It was a hot mess and I’m happy I switched.

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        I want to love kopia but the command line syntax feels unnatural to me. I don’t know why either. For the whole month I test drove it, I had to look up every single time how to do something. Contrast this with restic which is less featureful in some ways but a few days in it felt like I was just using git.

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          I never used the command line with Kopia besides starting it up in server mode and used the web based GUI to configure, it was pretty simple to get everything setup that way. You may want to give it another try using Kopia in that mode.

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              You can use the web ui remotely.

              Personally I use it from command line, though, and my only complaint is that it’s too easy to start a backup you didn’t intend to… Buut if you’re careful about usong the kopia snapshot command then it’s fine.

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                Oh I thought the webui was only for server mode.

                I just quickly glanced through the manuals of both restic and kopia. I think my trouble with kopia is that its style feels kind of weird. I’m just not able to wrap my head around it well.

                kopia snapshot create /dir is shorter but more confusing than restic -r repo backup /dir

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    Rsync is great but if you want snapshots and file history rsnapshot works pretty well. It’s based on rsync but for every sync it creates shortcuts for existing files and only copies changes and new files. It saves space and remains transparent for the user. FreeFileSync is also amazing

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    I don’t have backups. :/

    And I will regret it some day.

    I use github for code so that’s backed up though.

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    There is no such thing as the objectively best solution. Each tool has advantages and disadvantages. And every user has different preferences and requirements.

    Personally, I am using Borg for years. And I have had to restore data several times, which has worked every time.

    In addition to Borg, you can also look at Borgmatic. This wrapper extends the functionality and makes some things easier.

    And if you want to use a graphical user interface, you can have a look at Vorta or Pika.

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      Agree. Should say ‘best for you’. Cool thanks. I know of Vorta which I intended of using. Gonna read up on the other ones.

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    I’ve been using restic. It has built-in dedup & encryption and supports both local and remote storage. I’m using it to back up to a local restic-server (pointing to a USB drive) and Backblaze B2.

    Restores for single or small sets of files is easy: restic -r $REPO mount /mnt Then browse through the filesystem view of your snapshots and copy just like any other filesystem.

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    I just use a script on an systemd timer. Well two scripts on two timers really - one running daily, one weekly for different data. It’s just a bunch of rsync commands copying folders to an hdd in my system and I reroute the output into a simple log file, mainly to verify if it ran at all. I am a bit paranoid about that. I can also run it manually whenever I want. Oh and some of the data I also rsync again to a smb cloud drive from Hetzner. I do not keep multiple versions and I delete remote files that have been deleted locally. It’s just a 1:1 copy.
    Oh and I use OpenSuse Tumbleweed so I have auto configured btrfs snapshots. Though I have not needed them yet and could not even say how I can use those. I figure that out once I need them.

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    I use my own scripts with rsync etc, I don’t back up my OS itself since I have installing it automated with scripts as well. I just back up specific things I need with my scripts.

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      automated with scripts

      would you like to share those or do you have references for creating such scripts? this is on my to do list since years but I always struggle where to begin with.

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        They’re very personalized to my setup, so they’re not particularly useful in a general sense - I’d recommend something more like using this guide which seems to be pretty good: https://jumpcloud.com/blog/how-to-use-rsync-remote-backup-linux-system

        Learning bash has been great for me, it’s helped a ton being able to automate so many different things even just like installing and configuring specific applications to work the way I want, etc

        I think a script to manually run for manual backups plus a different script to run for automatic backups scheduled via cronjob is a great way to go.

        There’s of course more advanced things like zfs snapshots which I won’t get into, but I think my explanation as a general concept should be fairly useful.

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    I started using Timeshift when it was included with a distro I was using and haven’t had reason to shift away from it. Have already used it once to do a full restore.

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    What problem are you trying to solve? Please think about that, and about your backup strategy, before you decide on any specific tools.

    For example, here are several scenarios that I guard against in my backup strategy:

    • Accidentally delete a file, I want to recover it quickly (snapshots);
    • Entire drive goes kablooie, I want my system to continue running without downtime (RAID)
    • User data drive goes kablooie, I want to recover (many many options)
    • Root drive goes kablooie, I want to recover (baremetal recovery tools)
    • House burns down or computer is damaged/stolen (offsite backups)
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    I use btrfs snapshots and btrbk

    btrfs is a great filesystem and btrbk complements it easily. Switching between snapshots is also really easy if something goes wrong and you need to restore.

    Archwiki docs for btrfs: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Btrfs#Incremental_backup_to_external_drive

    Of course you’d still want a remote location to backup to. You can use an encrypted volume with cloud storage. So google drive, etc all work.

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    For my Ubuntu desktop, I use the builtin backup tool to take backups on my NAS. For my homelab, I have everything running on Proxmox and my Proxmox backup server takes care of the homelab backups.

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    I’m currently working on a disaster recovery plan using fsarchiver. I have very limited experience with it so far, but it had the features and social proof I was looking for.

    I have so far used it to create offline filesystem backups of two volumes, one was LUKS encrypted (has to be manually “opened” with cryptsetup).

    It can backup live filesystems which was important to me.

    It’s early days for my experience with this, but I’m sure others have used it and might chime in.

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      Just one warning. If doing live, think about state and test your restores. Just mention because things like databases and ecryptfs will not properly archive live. There are various ways around, but consider if you have concerns regarding getting really good complete backups taken at one point in time and on live systems.