Police say a motorcyclist was taken to hospital with serious injuries after a B.C. crash near the Surrey-Delta border Saturday afternoon left a motorcycle dangling from a traffic light above a busy intersection.
I’ve seen the video of the event posted elsewhere. He was going insanely fast, as should not surprise anyone. He crossed half the intersection in three frames, and was so hard on the brakes already he was in a deep endo before slamming into the car. He was probably approaching that intersection well in excess of 100km/h. 150 would not surprise me. As far as the car turning was concerned, the intersection was clear and it was safe to make the turn. An invisible idiot-rocket coming your way at more than twice the expected speed is not something the driver could, or should, anticipate.
it was safe to make the turn
You mean, it would have been safe if the motorcycle were approaching in reasonable speed…? clearly it wasn’t safe to make that turn
North America and this turn on green bullshit. Cities should have dedicated turn signals, or a freaking roundabout.
Roundabouts are great in countries that train drivers and have strict licence tests, but the are not safer when cars just barrel into them without looking.
yes they are - you just make shit up
They are demonstrably safer by avoiding t-bone collisions
Yes, there is a learning curve
The same can be said about literally anything. No car infrastructure is safe when cars just barrel into them without looking - only infrastructure made to prevent cars from passing, which is not the point here.
the are not safer when cars just barrel into them without looking
Is that something that happens? We have a mix of roundabouts and regular intersections in Vancouver, as well as some very questionable drivers. I can’t think of a time when someone messed up at a roundabout. Especially the smaller residential ones
I wouldn’t use the endo as speed facts, I watched our motorcycle instructor do them at low speeds showing how powerful modern disc brakes are.
Also had a friend on a two lane road get cutoff by a person who didn’t want to miss their turn, he clamped the front brake so hard the bike flipped over onto its gas tank.
Endo on its own, agreed, is not indicative of speed. Crossing most of a 4-lane intersection in 3 frames (1/10th of a second) indicates insane speed.
The endo indicates “oh shit, I screwed up and am panic braking, and also I am bad enough at riding a motorcycle that I can’t manage my braking.”
no but how much ground he travels in 3 frames does, even if the camera recorded at 15fps he was still traveling well over 100kmh. Most video is 30fps though, so … yeah.
i agree he’s goingfast-, but endo braking doesn’t always mean oops I screwed up, it is often another driver violating a traffic law and suddenly safe riding becomes imminent impact.
I see the bigger Indictator of speed here is how the bike reacts after impact, it still had a ton of energy to launch vertically, instead of just falling down beside the car
This is a modern bike with ABS.
I have been riding motorcycles a long time, many decades.
The Canadian license system is a joke. We should be doing A1, A2, A3 power limits on bikes like Europe. As it stands, the only limits to teenagers buying these sport bikes is insurance costs, and this just means they don’t carry insurance and learn to run from police.
Sport bikes are fun, on a track, but there needs to be limits on how much horsepower we allow on public roads for motorcycles and cars. Why does an EV need 500hp.
Thanks, cross-posted.
I assume the rider rear ended a car and the bike did a 360 front flip?
Edit: car turned left in front of him, bike did a few spins into the air
The good part of accidents like this is that generally, the rider only does them once. Same with all the bozos who wheelie and then overdo it and end up sliding along on their butt. They might just be a bit physically sore the next day, but once they find out how much all that bodywork, bars or new pipes cost, they (generally) figure out that staying on two wheels is better. The truly dumb just get buried. Having said that, it is Motorcycle Awareness Month. Look twice, save a life. We’re sometimes hard to see even at normal speeds.
