• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    TBF the guys fighting to uphold (some) human rights won in the Revolutionary War, Civil War, and in WWII, and actually didn’t even have to fight in 1965. Doesn’t really make it better, but you have to enjoy the little things.

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      A key factor in the Revolutionary war was a fight against “Tyranny”. The tyranny in question was the King refusing to overrule the elected MPs on the issue of human rights for indigenous Americans. The revolutionaries wished to overturn the law to allow them to genocide and steal their way westwards. America was founded in order to strip a race of their human rights.

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        The tyranny in question was the King refusing to overrule the elected MPs on the issue of human rights for indigenous Americans. The revolutionaries wished to overturn the law to allow them to genocide and steal their way westwards. America was founded in order to strip a race of their human rights.

        That’s not even close to fucking true.

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          Many of the founders were active participants in the british colony, with Washington for instance commanding a British unit in the French and Indian war.

          The point of divergence was the 1763 Proclamation, which stymied the revolutionaries’ goals of rapid expansion, and ultimately the motivation to break ties with Britain.

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            The point of divergence was the 1763 Proclamation, which stymied the revolutionaries’ goals of rapid expansion, and ultimately the motivation to break ties with Britain.

            “An almost entirely unenforced proclamation as part of a peace treaty with France which the colonists themselves regarded as a temporary measure, a position shared by most British decision-makers, was the REAL reason for the Revolutionary War!”

            Sure, buddy.

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        That’s some bullshit. The revolutionary war in the USA was about taxation without representation.

        The Native American population halved between 1492 to 1776 according to historian Ned Blackhawk, which was published in Time magazine LINK HERE, while it did accelerate after the revolutionary war there isn’t any question that the crown was ass on the topic of genocide and the moment their more immediate conflicts with the French and Spanish ended they would betrayed their native american alliances and would have marched west and slaughtered tribes all the same.

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          Colonists at this point had a tax bill a tenth the size of British residents’, while demanding very expensive resources in return. Its a convenient slogan, and who likes paying taxes, but it is overemphasised in later accounts.

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            Colonists at this point had a tax bill a tenth the size of British residents’, while demanding very expensive resources in return. Its a convenient slogan, and who likes paying taxes, but it is overemphasised in later accounts.

            Would you like to mention what the representation was, compared to British residents? As a proportion, if you will.

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    You flatter us! Most countries just have endless wars over issues that have no effect on the country’s blatant disregard for basic human rights. 😊

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    Remember that time the US became super concerned about humans rights violations in China the day after Pearl Harbor?